EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm a new pilot and focusing primarily on PvP combat. I came across the Electronics Upgrades and Energy Grid Upgrades skills but they don't seem to be relevant to any modules which I've seen fitted on Minnie frigates (not that I've seen that many fits).

Can anyone explain or point me to a resource which explains when these skills are useful? I looked at what modules require them in the 'requirements' tab but I didn't recognize any of them. Are these skills that I'll use in larger ships, and if so which ones typically need these skills?

Thanks!

Electronic grid upgrades is required for covert ops frigs
Energy grid upgrades is required for marauders and hacs I believe.

Being newbie and doing pvp you don't need those skills at all because modules they enable are completely useless on frigs in general.

If your frig lacks CPU/PG you better skill fitting skills up or use rigs. And cases where rigs are really justified are not so common anyway so unless you know what you are doing and are going for some edge and niche fit you are most probably doing something wrong.

Well they do the same thing.

And I've used them...once.

I was going for max sensor strength on a frigate just so I could pop pods asap.

Thanks for all the replies!

It sounds like Energy Grid Upgrades helps anything that requires cap -- nos, afterburner, scrambler, webifier all included then?

Electronics Upgrades doesn't sound too useful yet. The biggest attraction for Electronics Upgrades V seems to be so that one could fly covert ops ships it seems.

Err, no. When I wrote "anything that touches your capacitor", this was a bit too vague.
Energy Grid Upgrades are required for modules that increase/decrease your total capacitor and/or increase/decrease capacitor recharge rate. But not for modules that simply use capacitor.

BTW why would you use a module that decreases your capacitor recharge rate? Because it will give you another benefit. E.g. the Shield Power Relay: it decreases your capacitor recharge, but increases your shield recharge rate and is used for passive shield tanks. (Tanks that rely on the recharge rate.)

While they're not really all that useful for you now, if you took someone s word on it and trained them soon ish, at some point you would be thankful.

A corpie of mine suggested I do this some time ago, I trained it to like 4.4 or so ( 5 is a long ass haul) while I took a week or two off, then I saw the tread about the marauders rebalancing in the features and ideas discussion forum (Rubicon) and was immediately greatfull I had invested.

Incidentaly ,you should have a glance at the stickys in there, the t1 combat frigs are up next for tweaking, along side the pirate ones.

Link here