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Making Missiles more viable in pvp
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#21 - 2011-11-28 10:31:35 UTC
why?? Missiles are already viable for pvp.
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-11-28 12:41:12 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:


The only difference is now missiles will just hit sooner.

There are no actual changes to dps or anythingRoll


*head explodes at the stupidity*

Note. EFT ≠ EVE. Reducing missile flight times increases applied missile DPS in all situations.
Akara Ito
Phalanx Solutions
#23 - 2011-11-28 13:32:09 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:
Confirming drakes and tengus need a buff.Roll


It's not a buff.

It's a matter of how they apply the dps.

they'll have the same dps, same range, same tank, same blah blah blah.

The only difference is now missiles will just hit sooner.

There are no actual changes to dps or anythingRoll


No it makes them Turrets.
Thats bad.
Demarcus
Killjoy.
#24 - 2011-11-28 14:06:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Demarcus
Bienator II wrote:
missiles are already good (almost to good IMO).
- pick the damage type
- range independent damage
- no cap consumption
- they always do damage (no missing)
- no viable counter measures (nobody uses defender missiles)

if you rise dps (or basically anything else) to match turrets they will quickly become imbalanced.


Just because people don't use the counter measures offered doesn't make them non-viable. Anyone who has ever watched an Alliance Tournament has seen how viable defender missiles can be.

It is really the exact same argument about the Falcon and ECM. FoF missiles are there to help counter ECM and they work, yet people still don't use them.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-11-28 15:11:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Knight
At least missiles speed should be buffed , if the server has no problem with my heavy missile go 10kps it should have no problem my siege missile or other missiles do the same.

Also I would make cruise /citadel cruise missiles to half gun half missiles,they insta travel to 50km(whatever is prefered) near target then act like missiles , this would greatly reduce missile lag from longer ranges, also it shouldnt be that hard to be implemented.
For example: cruise raven vs target
0-50km raven fires missiles act same as now
50km+ raven fires missiles appear 50km from target+ effect between that point+raven , then acts as a missile
it would also calculate fuel so it wouldnt make missiles longer ranged than now

this would max missile lag out which is imho one of the main problem with missile sniping

oh and missile explosion velocities are too low for most missiles
target sig/missile signature should be the main factor not target speed
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