EVE General Discussion

You picked up on that too, eh?

A Camelot reference! Kudos, sir! Kudos!

The action in real life creates the action in the game.

Real life is real life, sitting at a computer or jogging around the block.

There's no personal investment. Crusader Kings 2, a great game btw, has a definitive beginning and ending. I don't know if you mean multiplayer, if you do kudos to you for getting it to work, but I would assume since being continuously assassinated by 1 guy causing you to lose the game, well whatever. I didn't have to work for anything. Seeing as that game is over, I'll go start another one. CK2 games start and end constantly. EVE carries on indefinitely. Winning in one game and losing in another, ultimately is the same because win or lose the game is over and if you desire to keep playing, another one must be started.

The only real thing I feel strongly about so far on these forums is my opportunity to discuss opinions with others. If someone wishes to steal/rob/gank/extort someone within the confines of EVE, by all means, have at it! Knock yourself out! Go hard in the paint!

But I'm not going to do it. And while some people will applaud one's ability to "outsmart" others and ruin their game play, well, I'll condemn it for them choosing to ruin someone elses game.

If you leave GD you will find lots of nice people

Also @ the OP, if you go to the thread Collisions, you'll see many great examples of angry and arrogant posters tearing up a thread that is a legitimate idea. You can see that anyone that agrees with the OP is hammered immediately, even by people tearing apart grammar. This is how the few try to control the many. These people you take issue with are actually worse than trolls, because they successfully set the agenda for these forums by suppressing any and all new ideas. They justify their bias and hatred by simply dismissing all they disagree with as "stupid." I doubt it would be appropriate for me to suggest other forums, but in my opinion the "official" forums attract the worst behavior, perhaps because that's where the sociopaths attempt to control the Devs and thereby enforce their game narrative. You are correct that a new player has virtually no chance of constructive feedback on these forums.

Mourn, when the OP is a voice of reason, we will treat him with respect and with a reasonable discussion.
Many of the threads he posted were treated without hostility, like his suggestion to give Rohk 8 unbonused missile slots. Although that one was treated with much bafflement, there was no hostility.

Keep in mind though that this current thread was started after he arbitrarily posted rants threads demanding buffs/nerfs to ship without backing them up, while including gems like the following. Needless to say, statements like the following are about tailor designed to annoy every single F&I poster. Unsurprisingly, he caught **** for them, then got mad at peoples "negativity"



TLDR: The people getting negative comments are not saints by default, not or the people being negative automatically devils.
There is plenty of blame to go around for all parties involved. Being courteous will get politeness in return. Not doing so and you end up like the OP. Welcome to the EVE forums.

Perhaps, but it's also possible that the strong language used in forums arises because most of what we take for granted in communication is lost in the instant written reply.

Tone, inflection, expression and body language which can make even a single word have different meaning or emphasis are all absent here.

As a result, the strength purely of the words written has to convey so much more.

While it seems that writers are rude and negative, I often put it down to them trying to get across a view that in other forms of communication they would be able to convey more simply and in a manner that we all use every day.

It's easy to interpret these replies as anger and negativity because as the reader, the interpretation is totally up to us without any other visual or auditory clues about the actual tone intended.

The reality from the writers perspective could be totally different, which I think we all need to recognize when we read posts in the forum.

Separate to my previous reply, sometimes it's simply a matter that:

1. The same thing is posted over and over and over without first using the search function and posting in an already existing thread

2. CCP has already published an official response to an issue but because the search function isn't used a new topic is started

In those cases, the negativity isn't really in the replies, but it starts from the failure of an OP to take even a short period of time to ensure that "New Topic" really does need to be pressed. In most cases it only serves to disjoint and rehash on arguments.

So then, gtfo (in the stronest and most negative possible way).

Show me where on these forums I've ever said a man pretending to be a woman was a bad thing. I don't understand what your issue with me is but I hope you get over it. I've seen you post in different forums on different topics and I'm not following you around insulting you.