EVE General Discussion

Thanks for the advice, the fun part is that there is absolutely nothing you can do to protect yourself against people who want to infiltrate and shoot you at unguarded moments, however unlike hisec we tend to be set for PvP and if not we avoid, and we should not forget that quite a few of us have done PvP and have high skills though its not the full story by any means. But if he was to come here for PvP we would find it refreshing rather than the AFK cloaky BLOPS stuff that we currently only see.

Our strategy is not to really fly expensive stuff and be ready to react to threats, so if they do catch something its nothing important, obviously a big target would be that JF, however like anything there are plenty of ways to minimize risk.

Thanks for your support, and all the best.

I will take that as being friendly then, and in any case there are pirate types here and out and out PvP'rs, as well as those that tend to shoot only when shot at, we have accepted a couple of people who may not be what they claim to be, so you still have to be careful. I suggest you join the "Hub-Zero" channel and say hi, I can set you +5 from the off and you can have a good look around. Hope to see you soon.

EDIT: Actually why not detail numbers, we now have 18 corps and 7 individuals that are part of Hub Zero which comes to over 220 characters.

EDIT 2: And potentially three infiltrators

In terms of roams, I said that very few people roam here and if they do they tend to get picked off either on the way to us or on the way back. Three times we have seen Happy Cartel small gangs come into our area and twice they got taken out on the way back by some of the locals, in the WEQT-K system or thereabouts. Go and check the Happy Cartel killboard, this is not a dig at Happy Cartel, who I think do very well against people I see as our enemies, it is just to explain the reality of our location. This area is remote and at the end of a long pipe, it was chosen by Aaron to be a pain to get too for attackers and this seriously impacts any potential attackers, especially as we now have quite good intel on movements.

The only issue we have is a single Arazu camping one system, however we have him camped too by one of our members so he is logging in less and less now, which is amusing.

If you want to operate in 0.0 and not be part of a rental or traditional sov operation then drop us a line in the Hub-Zero channel.

Thanks for the heads up.

How are you guys holding up? Do you think Stainwagon are coming back to Stain?

I feel Stainwagon are spreading themselves thin and if they are going to occupy Stain they may only be able to commit a smaller number.

Stainwagon do have my respect and they have stood the test of time, It is a good idea for smaller groups within Stain to call a ceasefire and have a look at teaming up to defend against Stainwagon if they should attack. Groups like Hub Zero and Happy Cartel will have some difficulty against such a determined opponent.

Nicely done!

EDIT: Quite a few Coven JF's jumping in and out of Saminer...

loving the hub, thanks for having me guys,

Its good to have you here.

Earlier in this thread I was criticized for planning and gathering intel more than actually doing something. Ciumcium Siorpija's post shows exactly why.

As much as i respect C0ven I feel that they failed to gather intel here and they didn't plan for the possibility of their opponents attacking with better logistics. If you are risking 45b in ships then real time intel is essential. It would have been an idea to send out a group of pilots into Stain and find out NC's staging point. Once this is achieved its a case of watching to see if NC starts to deploy while the POS bash is in progress, if NC was seen to be mobilizing then its a question of getting safe.

Other methods include getting the names of the NC pilots deployed in Stain then looking through their killboards with a fine toothed comb, look for what ships they fly and make a note . The contacts system is a useful tool because you can group contacts under a label. So you could have NC's logistics fleet under one label and quickly see how many of them are online. Use this intel to determine if its safe to do a POS bash.

I learnt these skills from Dracvlad who a brilliant mind and it really is an honour to work with him, If he was working with one of these big alliances then I am sure they would be doing very well thanks to his input. We also have other guys here like Herzog and Infinity and quite frankly I think we have a great set of guys that can show us how to achieve this. It is our job to respect their ideas and strategies and do our best to implement them. This really is a great group of guys, I see them as Eve Celebrities

Damn this is so cool.

There's one a close to Jita, but im not saying where!
Need that mass!

CVA?
They can be all KOS they want, they're still **** :P