EVE New Citizens Q&A

Probably easiest way would be to jump into nearest lowsec system and try to gank somebody. In FW areas there will be plexes and quite a lot of overall traffic so you and your bunch of newbies in rifters shouldn't have any problems with finding fights. With that being said you will most probably have your behinds exploded by first gang you meet. And by gang I mean anything from 1 to x players :)

Question is do you feel competent enough to teach them useful things. Career of avoiding pvp can mean you have no frakking clue OR just the opposite (kind of like those martial arts masters in movies from 80's :) ). Can you probe mission runners and go for initial tackle and have your newbies just come in for a kill? Do you know how to use aggro on gates to divide gangs and gain advantage? Can you provide logi and/or links to help them survive? Can you explain to them why ships you gave them are fitted this way not another? Do you know how to explain overview and d-scan to them so they could use those to find targets or avoid getting ganked?

Don't get me wrong, this idea of taking them for a roam and show them how it looks like is great and I really hope it will succeed. But you have to know what to do yourself first before you start teaching others.

If you happen to be near Adirain just come by and say hello. You alone or with your newbies will get a fight from any R1FTA present at the time and we gladly ship down to level the field. Of course we have advantage in skills and experience over real newbies but that doesn't mean we cannot all have fun. Just don't expect mercy so once your ship explodes GTFO with your pod ASAP :)

I`ve been trying to invite my friends into this majestic den of thieves, vice and gamble for the past year however all of them except one didn`t get past the tutorials. Weaklings!

Fortunately or not, EvE is not meant for everybody.

To address your question...

You still have a couple of months before you hit summer, so i`d suggest taking some PvP classes (for instance Agony Unleashed have such, EvE University also provides you with this opportunity) before you take up a role of FCing a bunch of rookies. Another thing would be to watch some PvP videos with commentary to get a general idea of what`s happening on the battlefield so you can more or less understand how to act. J`Poll and Schmata pretty much nailed it down. I wish you and your friends display perseverance and hopefully, unlike mine, they`re going to stay. Best of luck!

Agree and disagree with the RvB part at the same time.

Yes. It gets you used to PvP.
Yes you can learn from their FCs.

And this aint against the RvB FCs, but it wont make you learn things like moving a fleet, getting skirmishers around for reconand tackle, how to use tacs etc.

This aint the fault of the RvB people it is just that they focus on 4 systems which are filled with ready made bookmarks. And most of the time they know what the others are flying.

So yes. It does get your PvP feet wet. No. It isnt like the otherr type of PvP in EVE.

This is exactly what I am trying to avoid. I'm looking for a way to get them a taste of Eve PvP so they will stick around to learn these things for themselves. I'll be more than happy to help them get their feet off the ground with some throw away ships and stuff but this concept of having to spend lots of time training just to get in on some PvP is what is keeping them out of the game now. if there is no way around it then I guess the game just won't be for them.

Having to learn PvP myself is what I am trying to avoid. The throw away alt thing I was figuring on doing going into this but thanks for these ideas .



In my years in eve I've gotten enough comments like this to expect to get a few when I made this post but I just don't understand the perspective. I've been me long enough to have a vague idea of what kind of things work for me and what does not sit well with me. I'm not sure how long you'd like me to keep my hand in a pot of boiling water before it's ok for me to decide that I don't like the burning sensation. However I can assure you PvP is not for me.

I don't know how many of those newbies you intent to have but if they would put a little effort into researching basics of pvp by watching some youtube guides and recorded small gang/solo fights they could use numbers to overcome lack of experience. Unless they are totally against any kind of defeat and failure and want instant pownmobile group of newbies in t1 dessies can kill quite a few things. But they need to want to learn and they need to accept lack of IWIN button.

And you could just serve as an ATM and watch them grow and explode everything around including themselves :)

Create a corp and wardec people.

This was a lot of good information. It has given me a good starting point. Thank you to all who commented. Now I at least have a direction to move towards.