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Neural remap purchase
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Krakil Frostborn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-02-22 14:31:42 UTC
So before you start hate bashing pls read the following arguments ( mine and mine only :)

- A lot of new players , not knowing what they are doing waste their 2 bonus remaps very early on ( I wasted 2 of them in the matter of 10 minutes when I started and then saw the 1 year ... Cry )

-Neural remap DOES NOT DIRECTLY GIVE SP , I can't stress this enough , its like buying an implant ...

-I am not that good at making stuff up but my idea is the following
*either make it available on the services screen for like 2xPlex price / or ingame trade ( something like the AUR stuff)
*either seed it as an ingame item through some exploration complex or something that only mid/high end players can do , so they can seed it onto the market

P.S I would gladly pay anywhere between 500 mill - 2 bill for a Neural remap ...
Guillaume Conquerant
#2 - 2014-02-26 04:09:14 UTC
Agree with this approach.

I see no reason why this approach is any different than implants.

CCP, please consider!
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#3 - 2014-02-26 04:15:10 UTC
Yes please. I wasted my remaps on the first day to get into ships more quickly. I think that price is a bit high but 200 mill or so seems reasonable.
Oblivion King
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-02-26 05:25:20 UTC
seriously? again??
this horrible sub forum has a curse, does no one know how to search?

first off you made a mistake
second giving an advantage to players who have more money
third this will make plexes rise to 1 billion
4th use the ******* search function
5th it's not buying an implant because it has limited uses, giving players advantage (YES TIME IS AN ADVANTAGE) through $$$$ is not a good thing, because remaps go WITH implants so they give an added effect.
6th removes consequences from ******* it up
7th their intent is to be SPECIALIZED for those who want to train for stuff SPECIFICALLY
8th 2xPLEX for most people are nothing, and you can't put price on it, it's like putting a price on titans or SP, they will be bought and they will be plenty,

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i'm so glad this hasn't been brought up before.. like never..
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2014-02-26 05:28:10 UTC
If you don't understand how this is extremely pay-to-win, you haven't played EVE long enough to make this suggestion in the first place.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-26 05:43:12 UTC
Huh, some how I read Neutral remap instead of neural remap.

I think the idea of paying a PLEX to go back to neutral might be ok but even that is pushing it quite a bit.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2014-02-26 06:01:30 UTC
Remove attributes, attribute implants and remaps from the game. Train skills at 2700SP/hr rate that is deposited in to a capped (1-3 mil SP) SP pool. To train skills you pick a skill, choose how much SP you wish to apply, and hit apply. Simple. Elegant. Easy for noobs to understand. Fixes the system that caused the problem instead of putting a band-aid on it.
Seliah
Red Cloud Vigil
#8 - 2014-02-26 08:22:39 UTC
Rather than making neural remaps available for purchase, which seems to make a lot of people unhappy, why not make neural remaps unlimited during the trial period / something similar ? It seems the main issue you have with limited remaps is noobs wasting them because they don't understand how valuable they can be. As long as it's clearly explained, it would more or less solve that issue.



Aliventi wrote:
Remove attributes, attribute implants and remaps from the game. Train skills at 2700SP/hr rate that is deposited in to a capped (1-3 mil SP) SP pool. To train skills you pick a skill, choose how much SP you wish to apply, and hit apply. Simple. Elegant. Easy for noobs to understand. Fixes the system that caused the problem instead of putting a band-aid on it.


There are other topics about that, let's not go off topic here.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#9 - 2014-02-26 08:41:39 UTC
I cannot support the purchase of Neural remaps, why this is a bad thing has been gone over many times before in thread after thread and I see no need to reinvent the wheel when there is a search function.

I do however think there needs to be better education and explanation of remaps for new players as there seems to be virtually none provided at the moment.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Ronny Hugo
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-02-26 09:13:21 UTC
Why can't we have 2 neural remaps per year instead?
Arh Mezz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-02-26 09:21:55 UTC
Oblivion King wrote:
seriously? again??
this horrible sub forum has a curse, does no one know how to search?

first off you made a mistake
second giving an advantage to players who have more money
third this will make plexes rise to 1 billion
4th use the ******* search function
5th it's not buying an implant because it has limited uses, giving players advantage (YES TIME IS AN ADVANTAGE) through $$$$ is not a good thing, because remaps go WITH implants so they give an added effect.
6th removes consequences from ******* it up
7th their intent is to be SPECIALIZED for those who want to train for stuff SPECIFICALLY
8th 2xPLEX for most people are nothing, and you can't put price on it, it's like putting a price on titans or SP, they will be bought and they will be plenty,

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i'm so glad this hasn't been brought up before.. like never..

i am agreeing with this one.

although i like the idea of having unlimited remaps during the trial phase (which is up to 21 days), because learning by doing always is more effective. with a warning that states days left you can do so. or an evemail that warns you several times like "you have xy days left to make remaps, after [exact date], you have 2 bonus remaps and when they are used, you can remap once in a year."
Apoc Aishai
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-03-29 11:06:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Apoc Aishai
As Arh Mezz said
"although i like the idea of having unlimited remaps during the trial phase (which is up to 21 days), because learning by doing always is more effective. with a warning that states days left you can do so. or an evemail that warns you several times like "you have xy days left to make remaps, after [exact date], you have 2 bonus remaps and when they are used, you can remap once in a year."


I believe a Neural Remap would be beneficial for beginners only for a set time, and at an affordable price.
The New players are the ones making honest mistakes with the remaps.
The long timers should have the patience by now to wait the year.
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#13 - 2014-03-29 20:46:11 UTC
You already get another remap for every 12 plex you use...

I think it would be a better idea to be able to bank up your remaps up to 2 extras. So if you didn't remap for 3 years, you would have your current remap available along with 2 bonus remaps.

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.