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Exhumers - Skill Level 5...any point?
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Jau Jau
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-02-25 21:21:12 UTC
I have Exhumer Level 1 trained.

There doesn't seem to be any point in training it beyond level 1 as there are no benefits to mining yield or access to other skill s/ ships.

..am I right in this?

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2014-02-25 21:26:01 UTC
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#3 - 2014-02-25 21:30:40 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk


I don't think he made the connection between ship skill and the hull bonuses Master UAE.

Other skills show the bonuses on the skill.

Ship competencies and the skill bonuses associated with them are shown on the hulls.

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Jau Jau
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-02-25 21:34:17 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk


I don't think he made the connection between ship skill and the hull bonuses Master UAE.

Other skills show the bonuses on the skill.

Ship competencies and the skill bonuses associated with them are shown on the hulls.


Aha...thanks for the pointer!

Nice tone.."Unsuccessful At Everything"..real pleasant!

Kimmi..thank you for your help.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-02-25 21:41:16 UTC
Jau Jau wrote:
Nice tone.."Unsuccessful At Everything"..real pleasant!


It is hard to convey tone through text. I will endeavor to use more emoticons in the future. Blink

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#6 - 2014-02-25 21:47:09 UTC
Jau Jau wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk


I don't think he made the connection between ship skill and the hull bonuses Master UAE.

Other skills show the bonuses on the skill.

Ship competencies and the skill bonuses associated with them are shown on the hulls.


Aha...thanks for the pointer!

Nice tone.."Unsuccessful At Everything"..real pleasant!

Kimmi..thank you for your help.



Jau Jau, understand we get a lot of, for lack of a better word, stupid threads started in here. UAE is our guardian of sanity in an otherwise insane milieu.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-02-26 00:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.

CCP should seriously consider adding a single line saying something like "May significantly improve bonuses on some ships, see the specific ship information for details." to the skill descriptions for these skills.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#8 - 2014-02-26 00:48:11 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.

CCP should seriously consider adding a single line saying something like "May significantly improve bonuses on some ships, see the specific ship information for details." to the skill descriptions for these skills.


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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2014-02-26 01:05:57 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.
*Psst* Destroyer leads to higher classes… P

But yes, indicating where you can find the bonuses would be good.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-02-26 02:41:20 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk


It actually took me a fair bit to realize that. "Why am I training Cruisers 5??? Oh..."

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#11 - 2014-02-26 03:18:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.
*Psst* Destroyer leads to higher classes… P

But yes, indicating where you can find the bonuses would be good.


Idk, I would call the upgrade from a T1 hull to a T2 to be more of a lateral promotion than a higher ship class.

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Prism's Keepers
#12 - 2014-02-26 03:25:26 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
CCP should seriously consider adding a single line saying something like "May significantly improve bonuses on some ships, see the specific ship information for details." to the skill descriptions for these skills.


Great suggestion! +1
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-02-26 03:31:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.
*Psst* Destroyer leads to higher classes… P

But yes, indicating where you can find the bonuses would be good.


Idk, I would call the upgrade from a T1 hull to a T2 to be more of a lateral promotion than a higher ship class.

Cruiser on the other hand would be a higher ship class, which now requires the destroyer skill
Ai Shun
#14 - 2014-02-26 03:48:40 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
CCP should seriously consider adding a single line saying something like "May significantly improve bonuses on some ships, see the specific ship information for details." to the skill descriptions for these skills.


Suddenly I'm reminded of the thread on ISIS we had a day or two ago ...
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#15 - 2014-02-26 03:50:43 UTC
i had to relook up what the skill does on the hulk... but i have had exumers 5 for 8 years or so now so meh

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-26 06:18:38 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
i had to relook up what the skill does on the hulk... but i have had exumers 5 for 8 years or so now so meh


Also don't forget to keep your exhumer if you have a friendly ship builder. They use the hull to make a Hulk.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#17 - 2014-02-26 08:19:45 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Are you for real?

The descriptions of the Exhumers pretty much tells you the bonus that skill provides for that hull.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hulk


Be nice, it´s actually somewhat common for new players to be ignorant of the fact that the benefits of higher skill levels are in the ships´ description and not in the skill description (I myself was no exception to that...).

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-02-26 22:29:10 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
This is actually a common mistake many many new players make, especially with ship classes like destroyer that do not lead to any other higher classes.
*Psst* Destroyer leads to higher classes… P

But yes, indicating where you can find the bonuses would be good.


Idk, I would call the upgrade from a T1 hull to a T2 to be more of a lateral promotion than a higher ship class.

Cruiser on the other hand would be a higher ship class, which now requires the destroyer skill


yah .. well I was meaning destroyer V ... but was wrong on that as well because I totally forgot interdictors ... just a bad randomly chosen example.

Nevertheless .... the basic point is newer players often miss the benefits of raising a ship skill on specific hulls. A simple one line comment in the skill description would go a long way.