Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't think anyone would or could disagree that the Talos has a serious edge over the other Attack battlecruisers. It seems to have lots going for it, and with out paying any cost. Just off the top of my head, of all the ABCs the Talos has;
1. the most cargo capacity.
2. the most, and moderate drone ability.
3. has 8 turrets (for some reason despite having 5 drones).
4. Has tracking speed. (I think optimal range is better, but still pretty good.)

I'm sure that there has been a lot of QQ about this over the years. Why has there been no fix?
There is no way anyone could possibly think that this ship was balanced with the other ABCs. I don't know how this made it out of development the way it is. If this ATB is going to have drones, then it should have fewer turrets. There has to be a tradeoff. I don't care how the trade off is managed, just fix it.

Bullshit arguments:
The Talos having (a negligible amount) more signature radius, or the fact that it is slightly, ever so slightly less agile.

Thanks...
or no thanks. I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of **** for this from the gallente die hards, but this ship should be nerfed or rebalanced. Just one more voice in the crowd.

You've left a lot of room for discussion. Talos has only moderate levels of hp and if you use neuts it's dead meat.

Why don't you post on your PvP main, so that we can see where the bad Talos touched you.

Confirming you're mad Bro.



Talos isn't really in need of a Nerf. The drone bay...... I can see both sides of it. I like my drones on Talos, but I can see why they are a bit out of line. I think a better answer would be add drones to the others myself. But... the Naga tanks far better than a Talos ever could, the Oracle as well(less DPS) but better range profiles. The Nado has a far higher alpha potential than the Talos. Talos is just capable of doing the most damage. This is a staple of gallente design. Really high damage, moderate tank, moderate mobility, drones, bit limited on range engagement profiles. In my opinion, ATB's would be better balanced with naga and Nado having 2 small drones each, the Oracle 20 bandwidth but 30 drone bay, and talos at the 25's it's currently at.

I agree.

It's easy to complain about other people's ideas. You're just a lousy person. I'm also not reading your **** anymore because you don't know how to communicate your ideas in a way that makes anyone want to hear them.

Anyhow, for the last time, I don't agree that that makes the talos noticeably weaker.

Re-balance. Nothing big, but do something.

If the other ships get drone bays, the Talos get's the part of it's gun bonuses that were withheld back, right?

Other ships get drones, Talos goes from 7.5% per level tracking up to 10% per level, bonuses in line with the other ABC's.

And absolutely nothing of any value was lost.

Edit: I for one am open to both removing drones, or adding drones, but the OP's ranting based on erroneously perceived disparity in power is ridiculous and annoying, especially after he created a third thread just to whine about it.

Both removing drones from Talos and replacing it with either more tracking/level, or adding drones to the other races and buffing tracking /or adding a range bonus to the Talos are both actions that could remove the perceived issue without being a flat undeserved nerf to the Talos.

The meta is ever changing. That the Talos is the current king of the ABCs has a lot less to do with the overall strength of the Talos, and a lot more to do with the fact that non-drone snipers are currently out of fashion.

I remember a year or two ago, when sniper Naga fleets ruled the field outside of stratops, and brawling Oracles were all the rage. Then everyone decided they liked nados more for the alpha.

The key is that there isn't a balance issue between ABCs, but a question of ABC utility given the balance of everything else. Nerfing the Talos wont make everyone start using the other ABCs, they will just not use the talos in favor of some non-ABC ship.

Another solution is just get rid of attack battlecruisers as a silly class.