Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm sure it's probably been played around with already, but I would LOVE to see a black and red reskin of the Ius using the noctis colors. I think it would make a great and useful ship as a stepping stone towards a Noctis, but allowed on trial accounts.

What I think the ship would be like is something like:

ORE Frigate Skill
Ius
30% bonus to Tractor Beam range
75% bonus to Tractor Beam velocity
5% reduction in Tractor Beam and Salvager duration

High Slots: 5
Medium Slots: 2
Low Slots: 1
Rig Slots: 3
Cargo Hold: 400 m3
Salvaging Materials Hold: 1,000 m3
Drone Bay: 10 m3 / 10 m3 bandwidth

The purpose of the ship would be for quickly pulling wrecks from a maximum of 50 km to 60 km more quickly than a Noctis would, but with a limit on the range and slot layout so that for larger fields the Noctis would still be top contender. Mineral needs would be similar to those needed by the Venture with maybe a slightly additional amount to keep it an attainable but not market flooding item.

Constructive Criticism welcome!

Personally, I'd say a salvaging frigate doesn't need a tractor range bonus since the ship is fast and agile enough. I'd go for salvaging bonuses. Make it the perfect ninja salvager.

Currently only 4 ships get bonuses to range:

Orca (I believe it is a set 70 km / 84 km range)
Noctis 80 to 96 km
Tech 3s 40-48 km
Marauders 40-48 km set bonus

So this is to create a short range, cheap, low(er) skill salvaging ship for new pilots entering the game. Most of them can't afford a Noctis, and on top of that if they are on a trial account, can't use it if they GET the isk for it. We have enough ninja salvagers, this would turn some of those guys into legit profiteers who can clean up wrecks without thieving them I bet the market demand for something like this is a lot higher than people realize, a ship for about 10-15 mil of this size would also make a good lowsec, nulsec, wormhole salvager as it's a smaller target to scan down, then to lock, without a 'big' loss to wallet of losing a noctis.

As long as it has no turret slots (or only, say, 2 of them).

I support the idea,


I agree that it should have a warp-core strength bonus,
definitely bonuses for salv cycle time and tractor range and speed
maybe also a bonus for cap use of these salvagers and tractors, they're gonna get cap heavy pretty quick (I imagine),
missiles rather than turrets
I think 5H/2M/1L with 2 Missile points
cargo hold of 400 m3 - it shouldn't interfere with the existing frig haulers (Heron, Magnate, Imicus, Probe; think they each carry 400m3), so by only giving it 1 low, the faction frigs will fit more with any modules
drone bay/bandwith of 10/10 seems good


and for the love of god - don't make it a ninja - that's not what ORE's about!

So, you want a salvaging frigate, cool.

- You really don't need a specialized cargo hold for salvaged materials - The Noctis has a generous cargo hold, but all it really carries inside is the loot, because the salvaged materials don't take that much space.

- This likely means you want to take i to low or null for ninja salvaging/looting - therefore, your tractor beam bonus is irrelevant, as no one there cares to abandon wrecks, since it makes no difference anyway. Then, if you want to use it in highsec, it will get outperformed by a Thrasher.

- Anywhere you might need a salvaging frigate out of salvaging your own missions, you'll need one more thing - probes, so you can locate where the people, producing the things you want are.

taking those 3 points, i come to the conclusion, that an exploration frigate already fills that role.

@Vesan Terakol

• As you point out - no point on salvage bay - as you say
• I think the purpose is basically a version of the noctis for more dangerous situations - basically, the Lus is to the Noctis what the Venture is to a Barge
• therefore, there is no need for probes, since you made the wrecks (hence the tractor bonus is very relevant), you want a certain space for the loot, but I agree, you don't need a special salvage bay
• this idea is not for ninja-ing - that's already well performed by exploration frigates, as you so neatly point out.


• You forgot - this'll be brilliant for WH's

Jeanne-Luise Argenau (was Jeanne-Lousie Argeneau already taken? You sure you don't want to go for Marguerite Argeneau?)

• Don't make it a ninja salvage boat
• It should have some bonus to tractors (particularly velocity), since you're tractoring wrecks you made/someone's abandoned
• Do tractors or salvagers use more cap? (when unbonussed) Whichever uses more cap should get the cap use bonus

2 things nah it wasnt already taken i just mistyped, 2nd i liked that character ^^ and for ms mama i believe she was already taken :P
tbh i wanted to give the hull 2 boni and that was the best i could come up with because of change. And the idea would rly be ninja salvager, because it should be fast enough to work great with a mtu. but u can also make a suggestion how u would like a salvage frig to be.

Unless you work for Pro Synergy and have fields of wrecks at your disposal to salvage.




Exactly

Loving the feedback everyone, hopefully it'll draw some attention from some Devs soon

That's what the Venture is about, though.