Ships & Modules

So i did some testing fitting the two, and i think a mwd cloak mastodon is better than prowler for lowsec.

More cargo,
Ive fitted 2extra wcs so 4points needed
more ehp

And the speed of it with mwd cloak is more than without the mwd and cloak so you should have no problem there.....

what you guys think?

TR

except when i need to transport cruisers and dont have the time to train for a viator.

The DSTs are wayyy to bulky to successfully pull off a proper MWD + Cloak trick without sacrificing some slots of agility mods. IMO the best ship for this job are the 'light' T1 Indies, not sure what it is for Gallente, but Badger, Wreathe and Sigil for the other races. I haven't tested the other races but I've been using the Sigil extensively for lowsec hauling and it can easily carry a packaged BC and if you're good with teh MWD + Cloak trick, almost uncatchable except maybe insta-lock T3 camps, however the route I ran never had any of these but I did run through a couple of rag-tag gatecamps in my Sigil. Since you're using Minmatar indies here's how a similar fit Wreathe would look like:

[Wreathe, Mwd + Cloak]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

18.6km3, aligns in 8.53 seconds with mwd on, 5ish without.

Yes it works with low nav skills as I've been doing it on my alt which has only 30 days worth of training on it, most of which is in spaceship command to be able to fly the cloaky hauler. However your window to do the mwdcloak trick successfully is quite small. As for which hauler has the most, I'm unsure, the wreathe has more than the sigil, but I'm not sure about the caldari and gallente as I don't have eft handy right now.

I run this as my primary low sec hauler, it can move even BCs with fitting -> 17km³ cargo, is smart bomb BS prove(very good emp and explosive resists on shields with over 4k shield), I did even run into a dual smarbomb BS camps and passed this without issues, can take every jump without capping out using claok/mwd at gate(this is what the cap battery is for) and could even take one volley of a Tornado in Empire. The probe launcher also allows full WH capability, what is kind of nice. Without shield upgrades V you need to use a meta 4 extender.

[Wreathe, I love it]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Battery II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Btw, you really have to get the navigations to 4 at least, evasive manoeuvring 4 and acceleration control to 4 are the most important for mwd + cloak fittings.

Sure you can go with 3 medium shield extenders, there is nothing wrong with Dato Koppla's fitting. I just wanted to provide a alternative, and since I tested a bit around with different setups and use it a lot, I did feel free to give some input on the matter.

Btw if you move HACs or CS, plus fitting and rigs a lot, investing in a hauler that will survive the first tornado volley guaranteed is a good idea, because a instalock tornado in a trade hub is surprisingly more dangerous than most stuff you will run into in low sec.

Djego brings up a very good point, his fit is actually better than mine, it is more optimized for lowsec hauling, especially the smartbomb camp resistance as I've run into a single BS smartbomb camp before and I ended up in low armor, so 2 BS would have easily taken me down. Also capacitor is an issue on my fit with low skills, constantly using the MWD + Cloak trick + systems with long warps can force you to need to stop and recharge cap to prevent capping yourself out.

The fit I use is on an alt I use on my same account for hauling stuff to lowsec cause Dato can't go to highsec, I activated 1 PLEX on her which was just enough for basic navigation skills and the ability to fly transport ships, so I can't use T2 Invulns, extenders, cap batteries etc.