Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was thinking it would be nice if we could use a plex to train skills directly.

For instance... I've been out of the game for about 2 years, and if I could apply a plex and get the equivalent of 30 days worth of skills trained instantly , it would help me catch up for lost time.

I know some people would say that would be pay to win, so make it where, the age of your character has an estimated skill point level added to it, and you can use plex's to catch up to that point, but not go beyond.

In this way there would not be 1 day old characters in Titans or whatever, but allow people who have been out of the game to catch up to friends, that may not have left the game, etc...

How about add useful feedback instead of the ******** "LoLno" kind of statements?

Also, how about we refine it some more, and say, oh, allow you to add a plex for direct learning maybe, oh, twice a year max. catching up to 2 months of training for an entire year is not enough to unbalance the game.

No, hell no, not a chance, not going to happen, inadvisable.

There are so many reasons that this is a bad idea, but I'll skip to the most important one.

The day you can pay to magically gain skills that never took time to train is the day EVE loses a good 20-30% of the old guard, long term, multiple account reoccurring subscription players that make up the base of the game.

Eve lost a huge number of accounts when CCP added overly expensive vanity items. It would be orders of magnitude worse if CCP ever attempted to let people exchange money for SP, the second most important currency in the game behind experience.

Even Monoclegate was bad enough that the lead developer on the project had to release a very public Mea Culpa letter taking accepting responsibility, that CCP had dun ****** up, and that they would be very careful that nothing of the sort happened again.



TLDR: LoLno

I think this notion of "catching up" is antithetical to the aim of the game, though. There's a reason why "experience" is time-based and not grinding-based. All your suggestion does is turn the accumulation of skill points into another grind (either for the ISK, or for the real-life currency, to acquire PLEX).

The bottom line is that all those people with tens of millions of skill points don't even require all of those skill points, or bring all of them to bear, in a given situation. People aren't nearly as far "behind" those players as they often believe themselves to be. And in any case, EVE was designed not to be a standard level-based game. There are roles for players of all skill point levels. It's not one of these things where you're "locked out" unless you're level 90 or something like that. Of course, I think many people come into EVE with the level-based mindset, and psych themselves out because of it.

This.

Nope.

Maybe edit your initial post instead of trying to clarify yourself in a post people will read after they have already replied to your initial post. Either way, buying SP once a year would make it so that you have to do that to compete.

As it was with Learning skills.
As it is with Implants.

As shall it be with buying SP.

Even so, have you thought a second about what this would do to the PLEX market? Everyone, their alt and grand mother will want to level up a month worth of SP. A months worth of sp based on what stats btw? Do you need to buy +5 implants to make best use of this upgrade?

Prices would skyrocket, leaving many players dependant on PLEX without subscriptions, so first the prices would shoot in the sky, to eventually crash and burn before the next years plex for SP event. Meanwhile some richie riches will make a fortune off plexes, plex dependant players will quit and all just because you wanted to by a months worth of SP.

GO HOME YOU ARE DRUNK

You are none too bright are you.

The entire eve skill system is based on the idea that skills train in real time, that each skill on each and every character took its due time to finish. Long term players have played this game for years or over a decade in some cases, and we have fought every single attempt to turn this game into Pay 2 Win.

There will be no Gold Ammo, there will be no pay for buffs, no super premium bonuses for players who pay extra, and most certainly, there will never, ever, in any way, shape or form be a way to use PLEX to accelerate the training of a character, or add SP to it.

If Eve ever does try that ****, I for one will unsub all accounts, as will a very large number of the older players, aka the players with the greatest retention and return rate, who have multiple characters. Eve will lose probably close to a third of the playerbase in a damn hurry.

Notice the people above you all of whom responded along the lines of "**** that"? That's not some opinion of a few people. That's basically the opinion of every pod pilot in eve who has played for more than a month.

Thankfully, CCP learned enough from MonocleGate that the idea of the backlash from introducing game changing micro-transactions rightfully scares them shitless.

Where they see p2w ?

PLEX can be bought for isk.

Titan bought "for plex" often live forever (If i lie number of titans in eve should be same, but titan pop has stable growth )
Alt also is give no superiority, thats obvious.

If buyng mobile jump portal bridge is not P2W, CCP should allow direct SP injection.