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I need some advice

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Amika Inspace
Auriga Panthera
#1 - 2014-02-15 16:27:35 UTC
Hi everyone! I've recently started back up in EvE after not playing for over a year and have started playing with some friends who are new to the game. I used to live in a C4 and have experience with wormholes though my friends do not, my plan is to get them into drakes and then move us into a C1, C2 or C3, train them in wormhole space while we can stay self sufficient and have fun in w-space. I would love some advice from people as to which class we should move into as I am aware that HS static wormholes are highly contested and my newly trained friends cannot contest with anyone who may try to evict us.
Tyrant Scorn
#2 - 2014-02-15 16:45:28 UTC
Amika Inspace wrote:
Hi everyone! I've recently started back up in EvE after not playing for over a year and have started playing with some friends who are new to the game. I used to live in a C4 and have experience with wormholes though my friends do not, my plan is to get them into drakes and then move us into a C1, C2 or C3, train them in wormhole space while we can stay self sufficient and have fun in w-space. I would love some advice from people as to which class we should move into as I am aware that HS static wormholes are highly contested and my newly trained friends cannot contest with anyone who may try to evict us.


Evictions rarely happen in lower class, especially in C1's but evictions shouldn't be a reason for you not to do what you love to do. Don't be scared of the big bad bullies, they always make it sound more scary then it really is.

I would start by going into a C1 and then when you're ready skill wise, grow into a C2 and so on.
Amika Inspace
Auriga Panthera
#3 - 2014-02-15 16:54:38 UTC
That's a relief as it was my main concern. What about POS set up in a C1 or C2? the annoying ecm type perhaps?
Carlos Agathon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-02-15 17:00:49 UTC
I absolutely recommend Caldari POS with lot's of cruise Missile Batteries.

No, you should build yourself a nice D*ckstar.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#5 - 2014-02-15 17:02:51 UTC
Do not settle a c1/c3-hole. Without an outgoing wormstatic, you can say goodbye to the actual wormhole-feeling. That aside, the system you're living in is not relevant to your income, but to your security (due to roamers, day-trippers and logoff-warriors coming in through your k-space-connection). Your static is where you make cash, so you might aim for a c1-static (mad cash with med. lasers) or c3-static (formidable groupcontent for a young corp). Both got the advantage of ending in k-space, so it's very easy to secure your chain.

That aside...
C4s are usually inhabited by (very) small groups,
C2s usually host training/academy-corps, young corporations or corps/alliances with a focus on ganking.
C1s/C3s usually got industrialists, planetary interactors and weekend-farmers in them.
C5s is mostly expo/farmer-space, but some pvp-corps mingle amongst them. C6s - I don't really know, I only know of some fins and a few swollen alliances up there.
Amika Inspace
Auriga Panthera
#6 - 2014-02-15 17:37:31 UTC
So after reading your guys replies, I'm thinking a C2 with a C1 static and if I remember correctly all C1's have a HS static right? also I think a D*ckstar would be best as they are a pain for anyone wanting to deal with them lol.
Tyrant Scorn
#7 - 2014-02-15 18:06:41 UTC
Amika Inspace wrote:
So after reading your guys replies, I'm thinking a C2 with a C1 static and if I remember correctly all C1's have a HS static right? also I think a D*ckstar would be best as they are a pain for anyone wanting to deal with them lol.


Yeah a C2 with a C1 static would be great to start and, you'll get some K162's from other C2's that have a C2 as their static, so the potential to get some fights is always nice and if you don't like it, you can crit or close the connection.

Goto this website: http://eve.1019.net/pos/

It is a POS builder and I'd recommend a Large Amarr tower to start with, but that is personal preference I guess.
Amika Inspace
Auriga Panthera
#8 - 2014-02-15 18:46:08 UTC
Thank you guys for the great advise! likes for all of you :)
Tyrant Scorn
#9 - 2014-02-15 18:54:42 UTC
Amika Inspace wrote:
Thank you guys for the great advise! likes for all of you :)


No problem. I hope you will enjoy your ventures into WH space.

I would also like to add that a highsec static may sound very convenient, however, my experience is that if you go in well prepared before hand, you don't need to jump into empire all the time, and probably something you'll notice is that empire connections are quite frequent and sometimes even open up every other day and become more of a burden then a blessing. You'll notice that you're eventually going to use other peoples empire connections as well.
HTIDRaver
Neurosurgical Reconstruction Centre
#10 - 2014-02-18 08:36:26 UTC
Personally I'ld advise looking into getting yourself a C4 wormhole with either a C1 static or a C2 static.. maybe even a C3 static. I'ld suggest this because C2's are overpopulated as it is.. will take some serious time to get into a quiet one unless you want to take it by force. C4's on the other hand are less settled.

PLUS.. in a C2 the only way you will get a "challenge" from your pve is maybe a wandering higher class hole every now and then. If your home hole is a C4 you can run the sites in more organized fleets than a C2 or C3 would require and "bond" as a fleet considering the fellas you are with are new from my understanding, and like I said bit more of a challenge in C4 sites yet your statics are still easy enough for an efficient income for your first taste of wh life.. you don't want your wh life to become dull.
ROSSLINDEN0
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-02-18 08:55:38 UTC
Id say basing out of a c4 is the perfect place to start as most higher class dudes cba with them, personally if i collapse our static and the new one has a static c4 ill look for nulls and if there's none ill just pop it without even probing the c4 as they're a complete waste of time
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-02-18 13:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Sola Mercury
Amika Inspace wrote:
... and if I remember correctly all C1's have a HS static right?


No. They all have k-Space statics. Some have highsec, some lowsec, and some nullsec static wormholes.
Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-02-19 19:45:45 UTC
i think you should get a c2 with c1 hs . You can farm c2 and c1 . You can get in hs whenever you like , no problem with logistics and so on .

youl get PLENTY of visitors yes and people who want to kill you , but from high , so when youre farming or doing stuff you MUST monitor only 1 exit with an alt , and depends whats in c1 , it can be wattched too or ignored if its not dangerous .

Thats the only drawback which is easily controlled . As for loosing it ... a Large pos made well enough doubt anyone will kick you out of it just for lul's . But the profit is slim in such so you should do youre best to take maximum from it , i mean PI is a must . And then all the rest .

Youre newbs can fly and suicide as they wish in c1 , and do more organized stuff in c2 .
Get skills : scaning , pi , gas farming , salvaging and go for t3 .
Once youre good to go you can consider c2 with hs and c3 or c4 . C4 is better cos theyre more empty , but you cant solo them .
I wouldnt recomend soloing c3 also without alt's or corp mates to keep "ears" on exits . But its harder , much more harder then c2 , so you can take it slower with a c3 first .

WH as you know aint hard , and i find it more secure and less dangerous if carefull then low's or null's imho . But you MUST indoctrinate them about d-scan . And ears on exits .

I mean you can freely farm c2 anomalies for month's and it will be alright , but enough one time that you aint carefull and a well made gank will destroy youre fleet . (ganks dont bother with posses)

Well thats my 2 cents

Opportunities multiply as they are seized.

Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#14 - 2014-02-19 20:07:14 UTC
my recommendation would be slightly different. the main problem with newbros isn't their SP or tanks. it's really the mechanics of wh space. remembering to BM new holes, siggy, keeping track of mass, jump mechanics, rolling static, updating clones, etc. It's easier to learn these things in a wh without a wh static like a c1 or c3. c1 would be a ***** to roll though.

the risk of going straight to a c2 would be that they might get killed a lot, forget to update clone, and/or get frustrated. and all of that before they can experience the fun of it all. c4 could also be your answer, but supply logistics can be a little harder.

lastly, the biggest mistake a lot of newbros make, incl myself, is that they feel the need to jump straight from frigate to drake or the equivalent. have them take their time. frigates and cruisers are soooooo much fun right now! there is no need to dash!! and that is my main, albeit weak argument for c1 space. they can fly frigates/cruisers and pvp. and also use those for sites. basically, make them feel useful in wh space without telling them "just wait 4 months until you can fly this fit!"