Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Buff hit points? Are 24+h TD "battles" is insuffucient for you?

Throwing out a bunch of silly 'suggestions' without seeming to have a basic understanding of differences and trade offs between ship classes would tend to make one look like a twit as well.



BS aren't designed to do full Paper DPS on smaller targets.

BS aren't supposed to hit field insta lock targets. Like everything in Eve, it's right tool for the Job. Being in fleet alone boosts scan resolution fairly significantly .



Price of T2 rigs does not impact battleships. This is an entirely separate discussion.


See applied DPS statement. These weapons are not designed to willy-nilly track smaller ships.


With faster warp speeds must also come slower. Of your statements, this is the one that may carry some weight, but these should not be buffed too much. The whole trade-off thing.

Two things based on my knowledge of history rather than Eve BS:

BS always had a secondary armament that could easily take down cruisers and the WWII class BS had Dual Purpose secondaries that could be used against fighters. Of course drones fulfil this role nicely, but on low-drone BS maybe a new mid-slot module of secondary guns would help? These would be medium guns with good tracking.

BS always had excellent target acquisition gear, they could hit targets over 26000yrds away. Perhaps another mid-slot module would be Fire Control Co-Processors to greatly improve the targeting ability of the BS.

BS would always be considered the flagship of a fleet yet there is no real reason in eve to even dream of such a thing. The two modules above could potentially give a BS a reason to be used in small fleet engagements at least.

Note: I thought they should be modules rather than buffs so that they impinge on the possible tank options.

lol a ships ehp has nothing to do with whether it can roam solo or not.

has she thought about flying something smaller?

seems to me it would solve all her problems. faster locks, better damage application etc

.... Did you...nvm.

A battleship's secondary battery of 5in guns wasn't added to take down cruisers."Dual purpose" guns meant that they could attain high firing arcs and could be loaded with flak shells for AA fire. A BS would have just used their main battery against smaller ships (which shoot 100 bullets to sink what you could have with 5-10).(thinks of... the Atlanta-class cruiser which was all 5in dual purpose guns)

Which comparatively, theres no requirement in game for you to load your battleships up with large guns, or even medium ones. They just won't get bonused, but back when several ships had utility/launcher slots, it really wosn
t that bad to put an assault launcher on them to help take down webbing frigs. Also I haven't checked the bonuses in a while, but I think the hurricane, and the harbinger still get bonuses to small guns (6 bonused small artys is quite a bit of antifrig firepower) And the RHML is an attempt to bridge the gap for missiles

Edit, op nope, checked, they switched them to medium turrets only for the bonus. WTB changing that back to just "racial turrets" and not "sized racial turrets"

Also in eve ships have nearly perfect acquisition gear. Now the lock time is a themepark mechanic that they had to add in for balance reasons because they want to limit large ships vs smaller ships. But seriously most naval target acquisition was done with scout aircraft and smaller destroyers on the edge of the fleet. Then the battleships and all the other ships in the fleet would start talking to eachother comparing rangefinding results, and then... they'd start shooting.

Again on the "don't fly alone" whats so hard about having some small ship in your fleet bring a TP. Really, they work very VERY well at helping BSes apply dps. Think of it liek that ship is relaying extra targetting info to your BS. Also theres nothing to stop another ship in your fleet from bringing remote sensor boosters. Also on damage application... really guys, webs are great... USE THEM. Trust me a stabber held down with 2 webs with a TP on him is getting pretty good application from that megathron 10km away.




Also to IZ.
Why are you T2ing the rigs on your PVP battleship?

What is the problem with applied DPS, you say theres a problem with it and then immediately say that someone is stupid for saying BSes aren't supposed to be shooting smaller ships... you know, the ones they have trouble applying DPS to. Damage application is fixed by good fleet coherence, Ewar, and good piloting.

Scanrez... fleet support. You can't tell me in a 20-30man roam not 1 person can bring a couple TPs or remote SeBos?

Large turret tracking.......... Tracking Links??????

Warp speeds... not really, I kinda like them being slow. It makes sure that the cruisers/BCs are on field before me, and I'll have a few seconds of not getting shot at to lock up and pull a bit of range/MJD. Also lots of players get tunnel vision and might not even realize that your there "taking forever to lock on" before you bring your guns to bear.

Lol rubbish @ the Rokh thing - they need buffs because they currently suck, which is why theyr'e rarely used outside of fleet pvp.

EHP is not a major function of lag ffs.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Is there a secret forum I don't know about where you get tips - [Trash Talkin].

I said it was a factor in lag, and it is. The more EHP a ship has, the more ships it takes to destroy it. More ships = more TiDi.

perhaps u dnt appreciate how big a buff a BS hitting small things is. BS's do what they are meant to pretty well. they apply brute force to anything that doesnt move very much. if battleships could hit targets of all sizes for significant dps, why would you fly anything else? all dps boats will be BS's or go home.

Dnt expect BS's to be as versatile as cruisers. as the middle ground, cruisers are just very well rounded in mobility and brute force.