EVE General Discussion

Every Blops pilot I know (it's on my to-do list as well) WANTS to use them in combat more. But their sheer utility as a mobile bridge means they are more useful before and after a fight than during one. It's a bit unfortunate, but it is a balance issue as well.

Currently the main body of a cloaky fleet is the Recons and Bombers (and T3's for the space-rich)- if the Blops themselves were made better, it might make the small ships obsolete as all you need is a fleet of Blops to jump themselves onto a target. The relative weakness (at least compared to cost and non-combat utility) of the Blops is a necessary evil, IMO.

I can see perhaps a new Blops introduced for each race, splitting the class like the Recons. One meant for direct combat, perhaps with limitations or even the complete removal of bridging ability, and the other the current 'soft' version meant more for bridging/support than combat- but made even softer and allowing a much larger fuel bay (assuming you might now be bridging the combat Blops more commonly and not just small frigs and cruisers).

A larger fuel capacity would also eliminate the role of 'fuel truck' in the form of Blockade Runners. Currently this pretty much just falls to an alt parked somewhere cloaked in a safe. It's not a role that is fleshed out enough for a player to want to do, and there is little point in a role created almost specifically for some multi-boxed alt. Either make it a role or ditch it by giving the bridge ships enough fuel on their own.

There are other small tweaks that cloaking could use. The ability to still 'see' cloaked fleet mates is one we've been waiting for. At the very least an FC should be able to detect his fleet around his ship, whether they are in bridge range...little things.

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I see what you did there.

People aren't generally whining about wanting the Nestor to be BLOPS and be capable of dropping cynos ... they seem more keen to give it a covops cloak. (Problem of course is it is priced around the cost of a carrier and any buffs that make a BS worth the cost of a carrier will also make it OP.)

Or you could just bridge two falcons in using the widow and get more jamming for less cost.

Imagine an army. Yes the regular type army you are thinking of for whatever country you are from. Now imagine another army. This other army has the ability to, given that there is at least one of their guys right next to you, teleport their entire army to that guy right next to you. Instantly. With no warning. Their entire army appears in front of your face.

Granted, this other army's soldiers are a bit weaker than yours, and harder to train. But that doesn't matter because they appear in your face all at once. In one instant they massively overwhelm whatever force that you may have gathered, because guess what? They already had a guy standing next to you so they know exactly what you have, and had just made the decision that their vast (but weaker) army was strong enough to overwhelm your smaller one.

Ok so you know you are done for. But what about retaliation? Nah. If this other army is good enough at what they do, they will be in and out in less than 60 seconds. This is not enough time for you to send in reinforcements from next door. You literally can't do anything. So how do you win?

You win by doing the exact thing they are doing, except better. You get a titan. Why do you need a titan? To counter-teleport them! They teleport on top of you, then you teleport your WHOLE army (not just your bait army) on top of their face. This time, your soldiers are stronger, and you have more of them because they are easier to train.

But.... but... I don't have a titan =(. Well neither do I. They are expensive... Hince the problem....

So do you see the problem now? This is why i have this character trained for BLOPS, and I have my alt character trained for BLOPS. Having BLOPS is awesome.

If you can't beat um, join um. Am I right?

Blops need a few tweaks, I think but they are fun as heck. I won't complain if you wanna buff 'em considerably though.


BLops are actually one of my favorite things to fly.

As a recent victim of a BLOPS drop I can tell you they are not broken in their current form. The group showed up like out of thin air, violenced my ship into a shiny ball of light, gave a GF in local despite me still wondering what just happened, and pretty sure I had just got surprise butt sexed, chatted a bit more in local, then disappeared.

From my understanding of the BLOPS role that's pretty much what they were made for. Let's see here.
Surprise butt sex, check.
Confusion and bewilderment of the victim, check.
Gone as fast as they appeared, check.
Leave wrecks in their wake (unless someone has a salvager/drones), check.

Yup not broken.

Most people want Black ops BUFFED, not nerfed!

They are only powerful against people that cannot organize and defend their neighborhood and prefer to rat in a carriers afk.