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C4 fitting with duo Tengus
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Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#21 - 2014-02-11 01:40:48 UTC
Oh my wholly ******* jesus this entire thread is making me sad... It's like none of these people have ever lived in wormholes before...

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Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#22 - 2014-02-11 01:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
DPS: 598
Tank: 1019
Price: 481mil

-Can solo all c4 sites, you just kite and stay out of neut range.
-Consistently clear sites in our chain in 15-30 minutes for 100mil/site (200-400mil/hr not including salvaging)
-Your ******* welcome scrublords

[Tengu, Tengu fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-02-11 01:52:24 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Oh my wholly ******* jesus this entire thread is making me sad... It's like none of these people have ever lived in wormholes before...


Oh Keith. It's nice to see you can be just as entertaining as you used to be flapping your lips in the incursion community.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-02-11 02:01:47 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
DPS: 598
Tank: 1019
Price: 481mil

-Can solo all c4 sites, you just kite and stay out of neut range.
-Consistently clear sites in our chain in 15-30 minutes for 100mil/site (200-400mil/hr not including salvaging)
-Your ******* welcome scrublords

[Tengu, Tengu fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix



And I can guarantee you aren't finishing Barracks sites in 15 minutes (or probably even 20) in that fit solo. And you certainly aren't staying outside neut range with furies given furies range is about the same as an upholders neut range. And 600DPS maybe with about a bil in +6 implants.
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-02-11 02:06:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tasiv Deka
Keith Planck wrote:
DPS: 598
Tank: 1019
Price: 481mil

-Can solo all c4 sites, you just kite and stay out of neut range.
-Consistently clear sites in our chain in 15-30 minutes for 100mil/site (200-400mil/hr not including salvaging)
-Your ******* welcome scrublords

[Tengu, Tengu fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix


What sites are you running because my fit (thats similliar but a little shinier) cant really run some of the sites without getting neuted to death.

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#26 - 2014-02-11 02:10:40 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:

And I can guarantee you aren't finishing Barracks sites in 15 minutes (or probably even 20) in that fit solo. And you certainly aren't staying outside neut range with furies given furies range is about the same as an upholders neut range. And 600DPS maybe with about a bil in +6 implants.


barracks take closer to 30 as stated in my original post

563 DPS with 3%s ( 35 less dps)

Fury Range with a 3% implant is 73kms, that's 3kms of play range to stay out of neuts


Anything else BUD

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-02-11 02:10:57 UTC
Tasiv Deka wrote:
What sites are you running because my fit (thats similliar but a little shinier) cant really run some of the sites without getting neuted to death.


Well to be fair you can easily kite the upholders of a barracks without even needing an AB. And if you can outrun the safeguard of the info sanctum and terminus anoms you'd be ok too.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#28 - 2014-02-11 02:11:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Tasiv Deka wrote:


What sites are you running because my fit (thats similar but a little shinier) cant really run some of the sites without getting neuted to death.



Use CN Scourge to out-range the neuts if your having difficulties with furies, less dps but it lets you practice.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-02-11 02:19:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Derath Ellecon
Keith Planck wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:

And I can guarantee you aren't finishing Barracks sites in 15 minutes (or probably even 20) in that fit solo. And you certainly aren't staying outside neut range with furies given furies range is about the same as an upholders neut range. And 600DPS maybe with about a bil in +6 implants.


barracks take closer to 30 as stated in my original post

563 DPS with 3%s ( 35 less dps)

Fury Range with a 3% implant is 73kms, that's 3kms of play range to stay out of neuts


Anything else BUD


563 isn't 600.

I'd be hard pressed to believe you can do any of the sites in 15 minutes. My corp has been in a C4/C4 for over a year. I've got a dual setup I use with fits similar to yours (actually better DPS cause i use CN BCUS) and none of the sites I can clear in under 10 minutes with double the DPS. I figure I'd have to be at least doing 8 minute sites with 2 for you to hit 15minutes with only one.

Your implants are bogus as well. To hit 563 you'd need a HM-703 and RL-1003. To get the implant range you'd need a MB-703 or MP-703 (unless there is some implant I don't know about).

Not saying its a bad fit. It's plenty fine. But your numbers and claims are over the top and inflated.
Levina Windstar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-02-11 02:26:51 UTC
Is 73km enough to stay our of web and scram range too?

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... and sometimes when I talk, too" --- Solecist Project
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-02-11 02:28:48 UTC
Levina Windstar wrote:
Is 73km enough to stay our of web and scram range too?


Most of the scramming and webbing are the frigs. Their range is short although they can be fast.
TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#32 - 2014-02-11 18:13:23 UTC
To be fair, I personally solo C3 and C4 sites in a Legion, not a Tengu. The fits I shared above were corporate-standard RR fits and a bling-fit similar to the type we've killed soloing C3/C4 sites several times :-) 2Bn on a Tengu seems ridiculous until you realize that you can make that back pretty quickly.

Interesting Tengu fit, though; I'll see if I can convince one of my Tengu-flying buddies to give it a shot and get his feedback.
snake03
#33 - 2014-02-13 05:15:48 UTC
TXG SYNC wrote:
To be fair, I personally solo C3 and C4 sites in a Legion, not a Tengu. The fits I shared above were corporate-standard RR fits and a bling-fit similar to the type we've killed soloing C3/C4 sites several times :-) 2Bn on a Tengu seems ridiculous until you realize that you can make that back pretty quickly.

Interesting Tengu fit, though; I'll see if I can convince one of my Tengu-flying buddies to give it a shot and get his feedback.



Happen to have the solo C3/C4 legion fit handy?

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-02-13 16:30:41 UTC
[Legion, C3]

Armor Thermic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-EM Pump II

Legion Defensive – Nanobot Injector
Legion Offensive – Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Electronics – Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Propulsion – Fuel Catalyst
Legion Engineering – Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants ‘Squire’ Engineering EG-603
Eifyr and Co. ‘Gunslinger’ Motion Prediction MR-703
Inherent Implants ‘Lancer’ Medium Energy Turret ME-803
Eifyr and Co. ‘Gunslinger’ Surgical Strike SS-903
Inherent Implants ‘Noble’ Hull Upgrades HG-1003

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Lalerin
Boiled in Soup
#35 - 2014-02-14 04:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Lalerin
[Legion, C3]

Energized Thermic Nanomembrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Cap recharger II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M


Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-EM Pump II

Legion Defensive – Nanobot Injector
Legion Offensive – Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Electronics – Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Propulsion – Fuel Catalyst
Legion Engineering – Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

This is the fit I use with occasional bling depending on how I feel. It is cap stable if you have decent cap skills and you only need to pulse the second repper a few times on the heaviest waves until webs are down. You can also switch out the cap recharger for a tracking computer if you want. It has an awesome tank and has held against many small gangs trying to tackle it. Only danger is if they bring a neuting boat then u are screwed. If you have boosts you only need 1 repper to run C3 sites. Ofc I use this fit with a scanning alt so I can concentrate on a pure combat ship.
The Cue
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-02-16 20:41:49 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
RR dominix is gonna be in the 650-750 range (or possibly higher) depending on fit skills etc. Usually gonna need bouncers for C4 sites, especially with the omni changes.


Am curious of the Domi fit for this. Recently, I've killed a few domis in C4 space, but none of them looked particularly good for site running.
TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#37 - 2014-02-16 21:05:30 UTC
Lalerin wrote:
This is the fit I use...


Strongly doubt it. I think at least one of your subsystems & high slots are wrong. I think you meant "Capacitor Regeneration Matrix" when you wrote "Augmented Capacitor Reservoir"; then it all fits, otherwise your slot layout is wrong. This is the fit you actually meant, right?

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[Legion, C3]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Thermic Membrane II

Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-EM Pump II

Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tythihoz
Lycosa Syndicate
#38 - 2014-02-17 16:58:38 UTC
The only real problem with dual Tengus in c4 anomalies are the Command Posts, the last wave has a eallt though RR chain that you need to break. It is doable but can be a timesink for you. Other than that you can do anomalies in T2 fitted Tengus with no real problems.
I have dualboxed Tengus in C4's in the past myself.
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