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[IDEA] SHIP HOLD in industrial ship
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Lidia Caderu
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#1 - 2014-02-16 17:24:02 UTC
Currently we have ore holds and mineral holds in industrial ships its very nice.

How about adding hold for packed ships and drones.
Approx capacity at L5 = 70k m3 = BS + BC
Lakshata Chawla
Blue-Fire
#2 - 2014-02-16 20:59:44 UTC
Lidia Caderu wrote:
Currently we have ore holds and mineral holds in industrial ships its very nice.

How about adding hold for packed ships and drones.
Approx capacity at L5 = 70k m3 = BS + BC

We have regular haulers for that, or SMA's in capitals.
Lidia Caderu
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#3 - 2014-02-16 23:25:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lidia Caderu
Regular have too small hold, carriers not for hi-sec.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2014-02-16 23:33:29 UTC
Alundil
Rolled Out
#5 - 2014-02-17 03:01:33 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Orca.

This


But support ops idea anyway because killmails.

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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#6 - 2014-02-17 04:32:35 UTC
Alundil wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Orca.

This


But support ops idea anyway because killmails.


Freighter.

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Crazy Dave
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-02-17 04:58:01 UTC
Lidia Caderu wrote:
Regular have too small hold, carriers not for hi-sec.


An Orca carries ships nicely in highsec.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#8 - 2014-02-17 05:52:36 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
Alundil wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Orca.

This


But support ops idea anyway because killmails.


Freighter.


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Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#9 - 2014-02-17 06:14:30 UTC
There is a reason this is not allowed, which is related to getting battleships into smaller class wormholes too easily. A ship, which can enter a C1, should not be able to carry inside a battleship.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-02-17 07:24:53 UTC
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2014-02-17 12:51:28 UTC
Catherine Laartii wrote:
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?



So an orca then.
Claud Tiberius
#12 - 2014-02-17 13:27:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Claud Tiberius
I would love to be able to separate a part of the hold and designate it as 'ammo storage' (or any other storage type I want).

In other words, having separate windows for some item groups.



That way I won't accidentally sell the ammo...

I know its not changing space. Its just easier management.

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Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#13 - 2014-02-17 13:43:15 UTC
but the orca is a ship used by pirates so they don't have to dock up to re-ship to gank people it needs to be like the orca have half the bass twice the agility a tenth of the cost and twice the size of hold and you can't fit ships in it if you're in a gang with someone who's ever had a negative sec status change cause pirates are bad oh and it needs to have the tank of a carrier
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-17 13:45:44 UTC
I carry small crates around for things like that in addition to the other fittings that I use on the ship at any given time
Lidia Caderu
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#15 - 2014-02-17 14:01:45 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Catherine Laartii wrote:
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?



So an orca then.


Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2014-02-17 14:20:36 UTC
Lidia Caderu wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Catherine Laartii wrote:
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?



So an orca then.


Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter.



So you want something that does what an orca does, with no training or cost involved, and you think this is balanced because...?
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#17 - 2014-02-17 15:12:21 UTC

17 Days to get into an orca.

It's a substantial investment (isk wise), but it's also a risk to fly - so, theoretically you don't have a bunch of new players jumping into them and hauling obscene amounts of ISK through space and getting blapped.

I'm not seeing the need you've outlined.
Lidia Caderu
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#18 - 2014-02-17 21:24:12 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Lidia Caderu wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Catherine Laartii wrote:
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?



So an orca then.


Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter.



So you want something that does what an orca does, with no training or cost involved, and you think this is balanced because...?


well for some reason CCP made all those specific Holds in indy ships, and that made life MUCH easier. Everything can potencially be carried in orca or in freighter...
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#19 - 2014-02-17 21:38:12 UTC
OP is asking for packed ships.

Industrials are large enough for that.

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Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-02-17 21:52:38 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Catherine Laartii wrote:
I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?



So an orca then.


Orca has its own roles that it fills quite nicely. For the rest of us that don't feel like shelling out over half a billion isk to move our stuff, this thread is discussing balance changes to ships you might have flown. They're called industrials, and while their rebalance was nice, they could still use a little work.
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