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Yaoriko
TeamAXE inc.
#1 - 2014-02-16 05:37:51 UTC
Hi,

Considering to get an Apoc navy Issue for lvl4 missions. Mainly i am running incursions for isk, got a lilttle bored and want to run lvl 4 missions just for fun. Problem is that i have mainly shield skills, is that a good option to fit an apoc with shield tank? Or better to get armor skills. Would be great to see some good fits. PS. I know that Navy Apoc is not the best option for mission running, but i like Amarr bs and lazors and just as said its for fun.

Thanks in advance.
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#2 - 2014-02-16 08:41:50 UTC
It would be probably better to get some armor skills for it, since it is a very very nice hull in a armor fitting, my absolute favourite actually if you look at Amarr BS, because it combines dps, range and speed in a very nice way.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, Zealot]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Core B-Type Large Armor Repairer

Core B-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II

Garde II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x3

Sure you could fit it shield, but you probably will lose out on the mobility of the hull, what is one of the biggest advantages of the hull.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, shield]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II

Garde II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x3

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Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-02-16 08:45:01 UTC
If you want shield and lasers, why not fly the Nightmare ?
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-16 09:17:28 UTC
You can not fly an Navy Apoc with an shield tank. Djegos fitts may look "ok" but you will have to capboost all the time, just to keep firing. Either save the money for a Nightmare or train for T2 Armortank (should take you a week)

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Yaoriko
TeamAXE inc.
#5 - 2014-02-16 11:21:01 UTC
i have NM already for Incursions, dont want to have another for missionning. As i said its for fun, want to try something new.Thanks for fit armor fit, think gonnna try armor tank it.
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-02-16 11:26:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Damien White
You can always try the Paladin.

Works like a charm with Bastion, MJD, Tachyons and Shieldboost.


EDIT:

Quote:
[Paladin, Shield]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Large Micro Jump Drive

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Bastion Module I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Energy Burst Aerator II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#7 - 2014-02-17 13:09:46 UTC
I'd fit pulse to a paladin. 100km optimal on scorch and 200 more dps on conflag than tachs.

it's disgusting really.

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Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-02-18 19:28:59 UTC
Yeah, but then one should go for MWD + Tracking Comps so sadly no shieldtank.


But yes, MWD Pulse Paladin is freakin strong.

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Yaoriko
TeamAXE inc.
#9 - 2014-02-18 19:37:22 UTC
gonna start with Apoc for testing purposes. If goes well, then gonna think about Paladin for fun. On the other hand..Legion :)
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-02-18 19:41:49 UTC
Legion for PvE?

Heh, good luck with that.

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Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#11 - 2014-02-19 00:10:14 UTC
With good skills, you can run a shield MJD tach Napoc with no problems.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, AST]

Reactor Control Unit II
Co-Processor II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Large Micro Jump Drive

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Algid Energy Administrations Unit II
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Jump once, melt everything. You only need to cycle your XL-ASB momentarily until the MJD re-spools, tank is really no problem in L4s. Its a little inefficient compared to the armor variant though, mainly due to the power of scripted TCs.
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-02-19 00:34:47 UTC
Yaoriko wrote:
gonna start with Apoc for testing purposes. If goes well, then gonna think about Paladin for fun. On the other hand..Legion :)



If you use a laser Legion in a level 4 - dual-webs, or a Federation Navy web. It will take forever to kill Guristas and Angels, best not to bother using it against them. (It works surprising well against Serpentis.) 18 million an hour against Serpentis, like clockwork, not counting LP or mission bonuses.

It is entertaining, though not very efficient. I probably could have pushed up the income, if I tried. Oh, and kill every webbing frigate ASAP, it doesn't matter if it's a spawn or not.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-02-19 14:36:09 UTC
why not use hams vs guristas and angels?
Victoria Thorne
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-19 16:09:02 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
why not use hams vs guristas and angels?



HAMS work, of course. Against Guristas the Tengu is a much better HAM platform in just about every respect, though.

Her post was about looking for something different. Laser Legions are not often used as Level 4 missioning ships, and I have to say, it's a really different experience flying one in a level 4 from a normal missioning setup.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-02-20 22:21:39 UTC
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Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2014-02-20 22:30:08 UTC
Something else you may consider, instead of going bs for fun, down ship. There are several L3s and L4s that can be done with an assault frig. It is HIGHLY inefficient, but a lot of fun. Be warned though manual flight is a must as well as careful mission selection.