Ships & Modules

Hey leute,

I am training to become a Gallente Droneboat user. I am going to use a vexor and in the future a Domi. I am wondering however ; what type of drones should I use for my droneboats, heavy or sentry?

P.S ; This is all for PVP purposes

Both. Depending on ship, fitting and tactic (solo or fleet e.g.).

Sorry, but that's the case. More often I guess you will end up using Sentries, Small and Medium Drones over Heavy Drones, but there are some specific fittings where Heavy Drones are a viable option as well.

No, that's not how it works. You can think up a whole bunch of different scenarios where either heavies or sentries would be better or where neither would work at all.

Right now, due to people suddenly waking up and going "hurrdduurrr you can assign drones lol" sentry fleets are very much the norm but as always the changes keep happening, sometimes because people start using a hard counter to the newest strategy and sometimes it's because CCP steps in. So by the time you will be ready to use them people will go "sentries suck, only morons use them". Not saying they're right, people use a lot of hyperbole and stupid memes, but in large fleets it's all about countering a counter's counter, which is an ever shifting situation so anything that is used today might be useless tomorrow.

If you look at small gang pvp then sentries are of VERY limited use and for solo it doesn't make much sense at all unless you can really "toy" with your targets. Heavy drones are even less useful, slow drones, easily taken out and taking very long to pull back in if you have to gtfo.

Generally using pure drone ships in pvp (apart from the current Domi meta) just doesn't work out too well, drones are much better in a support role, either as extra dps or damage type, sometimes in an ECM role.

Good reply, but one point I would like to mention: IF you really have to GTFO, please don't wait for your drones ;), just GTFO or you will probably loose your drones and your ship.

Either you are a bad troll or you really should skill "Read and Understand" better.

You were asking ingame if drone boats are viable for solo / small gang. And indeed they are. Nobody said something different in this topic! But you have to face, that drone boats are not the best PvP ships and it's absolutely correct that usually a support role is much better than being the primary pvp ship.
All which was told you, is that Sentries are not very versatile in solo / small gang approaches. And that is absolutely true, especially if you are talking about solo! There are situations they can work, but those situations are very limited. Other PvP ships like Omen, Thorax, Rupture can engage in a lot more situations then a Sentry-Vexor could do.

Next time please read a little more careful or don't try to troll. Thank you.

where have you been asking? Help / Noob channels. People often (not always!) have either no idea (they just hear from those Domi fleets, but have never flown a drone boat by themselves or are just making fun of the people asking questions there, i.e. are trolling.

I am not hating you. You were telling us, that we are talking crap, but nobody did. So better be careful next time about what you say, when you haven't read "our" responses carefully.

have a nice weekend.

The problem is that most people are ******** and incapable of seeing things from a different perspective. If THEY do something or it's good or bad for them it's good or bad EVERYWHERE, in their eyes.

Right now Sentry domi fleets are like cockroaches in 0.0 , they're fcking everywhere. Not because sentries on their own are amazing but because everyone in the fleet can assign their sentries to one person. That means that the domi pilots themselves can have the IQ of an eggplant (and most do, barely). But that changes when ppl find a counter or CCP (in this case) changes the drone assignment mechanics. So fairly soon people will stop using sentry fleets because now they actually need pilots with a pulse and their opinion/****** meme will switch from "lulz sentries are the best" to "sentries suck", because having a well reasoned logic is for boring people.

Those same morons who fly in domi fleets going "lulz this is awesome, I can go afk and get on killmails", and right now in 0.0 fleets that's indeed the case, are the same morons who just told you "lulz sentry for lyfe yo, they're the best ever olololol" disregarding that you might/will be in an entirely different scenario where you don't rely on a fleet of 250 domis but rather fly alone, or a small gang. They're too ignorant to understand the difference.

That depends. If it's a largely stationary situation like a gatecamp it can work fine and you could even get away with sentries actually, depending on how it pans out. But if you're in a fast roaming gang that lacks the tank and firepower to stick around (so kiting and avoiding nasties) then drones as a main damage system are pretty much useless.

There's never an easy answer in EVE and if someone gives you one it's probably mistaken, simply because it all depends on the situation. So "drones suck for pvp" is just as stupid as "drone are awesome for pvp", they're just different sides of the same uninformed hyperbole statement. If your plan is to solo or be in a small pvp gang then drones as main weapons probably isn't the best idea, if you're solo you can of course choose to do it any way and work around the issues but in a group it's not going to be great in the majority of situations.

Generally you're better off using turrets or missiles as main weapons for solo or small gang pvp.