EVE Fiction

In conformance with the capsule technology no one in New Eden with access to it is truly mortal.
As long as a clone is available and the conscience transfer is unhindered you're born again...so to speak.
Since the Jovians created the capsule technology it's hard to believe that they would die or dwindle from the Jovian Disease, unless they didn't explicitly use the capsule. Yes they would run through clones quicker than usual but it gives them a way to cheat it.
Most likely that's why the capsule was invented for in the first part (apart from gathering data on the other dwellers of New Eden an possibly helping them restructure their damaged DNA).

So to say that the Jovian Disease is wiping them - considering the availability of the capsule, plus the fact that they have a bazillion people in cold storage - is contradictory.

It's like saying 'Oh, look we can basically never die cause we transport our minds in a new clone whenever we want - but this damn flu is killing us!' lolwut

*I understand it's a little bit more complicated than a flu, but it's not physiological either (meaning no changes in the physical brain structure) so the new clone should not exhibit signs of it immediately. And when the symptoms appear they just clone-jump to a fresh one.

Also, to say something about that Sansha fleet in Jove space:

1) Why would Sansha need a fleet of that size (they had multiple titans and tons of battleships) to infiltrate+take over a place ruled by "weaklings"? And this in itself is perfect evidence to me that the Jovians are alive and thriving.

2) Sansha Slaves are very similar to Jovian "Statics" (a bloodline of theirs), insofar as they opt to use cybernetic implants to improve themselves, instead of genetic modification. I don't think it's too far-fetched to theorize that they might have some sort of connections or dealings with Sansha.

okay, hold up.

England in the revolutionary war suffered from a combination of factors including that the front line of that conflict was several thousand miles away and took weeks of transit time on the available ships, assuming the weather was good. Throw in some interference by the French and suddenly you have a lot of mitigating factors, and in any case Britain didn't have a technological superiority in that war because everyone was using roughly the same equipment. What they had was better-trained troops who were nevertheless remote, unsupplied, unsupported and outnumbered.

Germany in fact DIDN'T have a technological superiority over the allies. Sure, its tanks, u-boats and V1 and V2 rockets were impressive, but the allies invented Radar and kept their radar better than the German equivalent, the allies had better planes, had better computers and decryption, higher-resolution cameras and several of Germany's best scientists defected and formed the foundation for the Manhattan Project. On the Russian side of things had gear better suited to extreme weather conditions. Throw in the superior numbers, the American oilfields and factories, vastly superior intelligence and some brilliant strategy and pretty soon the German situation looks fairly desperate.

The Vietcong had local support, better knowledge of the land, and fewer logistical requirements for their troops, with those needs being expertly met.


Wars come down in large part to supply chains and intelligence - what superior technology does is make both of those things easier to accomplish. If you can airlift in your stuff via cargo planes and your enemy is reliant upon a fleet of vans and pickups, then you have a logistical advantage. If you can snapshot an enemy facility from a satellite they aren't aware of and can't target, or identify targets from two miles away with a thermal imaging camera while they don't even know you're there, you have an intelligence advantage.

Superior technology is far from irrelevant - it's a major strategic advantage. but the point is that it's a strategic advantage. As the British found out in the Zulu wars, it doesn't matter if your gun can fire seven shots very accurately if there are four hundred men for every one of yours. The way to win in that situation is to not get caught in a stand-up fight, or if you do you need to do so from a position that mitigates your weaknesses, at happened at Rorke's Drift.

I doubt that Capsule technology protects against Jovian Disease in the slightest. Jovian Disease is genetic in nature, and every Jovian is infected. This means that any clone made of a Jovian would already be infected. They could still use Capsules to avoid the disease... were it not psychological.

Jovian Disease kills by causing absolute, crushing depression. While a Jovian can struggle against it for a time, it eventually becomes too much to bear, driving the victim to suicide. Capsule technology transfers the mind in whatever state it is in at the moment of death. Even if a Jovian were to commit suicide without leaving their Capsule (which seems unlikely), the transfer would probably carry their depressed mental state over as well. It's safe to assume that, were a Jovian to clone-jump, the new clone would progress to whatever stage of Jovian Disease the original was at.

Because Jovian Disease is both genetic in nature and psychologically acting, clone-jumping would only transfer the already-damaged Jovian mind into an already-infected Jovian body. Capsule technology does wonders for space combat, but it can't protect against the Jovians' greatest failure.

Partly inspired by this thread I wanted to create a 'small' article on the Jovians, but the more I read about the Jove, the larger it became.

It eventually turned into a sort of quicik link explanation database to almost all Jovian events & historic timeline events I could find about them:

Shrouded in mystery, the Jovian race

If you got any comments, tips or corrections, feel free to say so.

Some things I noticed during my 'research'

Jovians are technologically much more advanced, using tech none of the empires have (or had). (as counter to, they are not that much more advanced) However, generally the Jove ignore direct power, preferring to depend on their extremely vast & efficient intelligence network. So obviously they're not fighters, but how can you fight an enemy that knows your every move?

Also, on the Jove/sansha cooperation, it's very likely, the Jove tend to offer strange and great deals in exchange for information. If Kuvakei and his Nation would have found anything that would slow down or treat Jovian Disease, or have rare/valuable information about things, I can see the Jovians easely making a deal to let sansha use their tech and or stations.