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EVE Monument: A question from Serenity players,wish an official answer

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Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-02-13 04:20:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kogh Ayon
Hello Dear CCP Devs,
I'm asking a question for my Chinese friends from Serenity Server, as a hot discussion is going on there about whether the EVE Monument will have the names of Serenity players on it.

At the moment, the Serenity server hosting company, TianCity, has made an unofficial announcement via an ISD, that Serenity Players' "main characters of all active accounts, with active subscription 'at a point of time'" (this link is in chinese) will be added on to that monument.

However, this announcement is being suspected by many Serenity players as CCP has yet explicitly talked about the Serenity server and the Monument at the same time.

To make things worse, the ISD who discoursed "the plan" to Serenity players, without providing more details about the plan, is actively promoting the "Name change service" (a service only available on Serenity server which costs ¥100 Chinese Yuan) and encouraging players to "subscribe a new account with character name: XXXX I love you forever, cost-effective and romantic" and create character name of politic slogans "You can write "DiaoYu Island belong to China" on that Monument". Which make people feel like it's a trap to attract subscription and sell name change service.

I entrusted by my Chinese friends to forward the question to CCP, that whether or not, the players from Serenity , will be etched upon the Monument?

Thank you very much.

Edit: The official announcement of TianCity is found here
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-02-13 05:34:35 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
This reminds me of the incident: Netizen outrages after Chinese tourist defaces Egyptian temple


Way to politicize everything. This Monument is to be the tangible symbol celebrating us the players and the game that had immeasurable impact on us both in-game and in real life.

"DiaoYu Island Belongs to China?" Come on... this kind of attitude is exactly the reason why Serenity should be forever separated from Tranquility.

If we let this kind of nonsensical Chinese crap on the EVE Monument, then we should make it apparent that ALL other crap could be engraved on the Monument.

Prime examples would be:

"Free Tibet"
"Cechnya is Not Part of Russia"
"Jerusalem does not belong to Israel"
"Give back the West Bank"

Don't you see CCP? Putting sensitive political ads will only lead to nowhere. CCP, you should be punishing the Chinese ISDs for instigating such childish and irresponsible advertisement on Serenity (if the allegations are true).
#3 - 2014-02-13 05:44:16 UTC
Only Tranquility players should be on the monument I reckon. Will DUST players get a name of the monument? Any chinese players on Tranquliity [which I am sure there are some] will of course get to see their names on the monument.
#4 - 2014-02-13 06:01:17 UTC
The Serenity monument would surely have some of the same names repeated )))
Hi.
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-02-13 07:36:31 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:


If we let this kind of nonsensical Chinese crap on the EVE Monument, then we should make it apparent that ALL other crap could be engraved on the Monument.

Prime examples would be:

"Free Tibet"
"Cechnya is Not Part of Russia"
"Jerusalem does not belong to Israel"
"Give back the West Bank"

Don't you see CCP? Putting sensitive political ads will only lead to nowhere. CCP, you should be punishing the Chinese ISDs for instigating such childish and irresponsible advertisement on Serenity (if the allegations are true).


Free Tibet does exist, lol. Hope this guy will not accidentally re-sub before March.

Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-13 09:02:51 UTC
Kogh Ayon wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:


If we let this kind of nonsensical Chinese crap on the EVE Monument, then we should make it apparent that ALL other crap could be engraved on the Monument.

Prime examples would be:

"Free Tibet"
"Cechnya is Not Part of Russia"
"Jerusalem does not belong to Israel"
"Give back the West Bank"

Don't you see CCP? Putting sensitive political ads will only lead to nowhere. CCP, you should be punishing the Chinese ISDs for instigating such childish and irresponsible advertisement on Serenity (if the allegations are true).


Free Tibet does exist, lol. Hope this guy will not accidentally re-sub before March.



Report them for having a inappropriate name problem solved.
#7 - 2014-02-13 09:27:47 UTC
Who wants to bet this is one of those things that CCP totally forgot to take into account and are now going to have to sort out some half arsed solution?
#8 - 2014-02-13 09:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Removed quote of a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

sorry but this is a game, and as such, the only politic should be ingame related politc we all have our opinion about irl subject X or Y, but eve online is not the place to rally or hate about it, so those politic message have no place here.

now, it is not a secret that some chinese ppl are unable to comply with that, and cumulated to other things like the control chinese authoryties require about ingame chan, plus the massive RMT, the chinese can not play on TQ.

i'd love that it would be possible tbh, but let's face it, it is not
#9 - 2014-02-13 09:41:38 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:
*Snip* Removed quote of a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

sorry but this is a game, and as such, the only politic should be ingame related politc we all have our opinion about irl subject X or Y, but eve online is not the place to rally or hate about it, so those politic message have no place here.
Entirely correct. As such I would ask everybody to please refrain from posting real life political references and/or opinions.

That said, I have taken the liberty of forwarding the questions raised by the OP to CCP and have pointed them at this thread.


I have also removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them.
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#10 - 2014-02-13 10:53:42 UTC

Serenity character names will be included on the monument.

With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument.

We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument.

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile

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#11 - 2014-02-13 11:18:34 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Serenity character names will be included on the monument.

With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument.

We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument.

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile

maybe it could be a good idea to actually publish said list after you filter it and before it is engraved on it, so player could help in tracking any offensive content you might have missed or not known about?

after all, there will be a ton of names, from a ton of countrys, and meanings could be country dependant.
#12 - 2014-02-13 11:24:47 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Serenity character names will be included on the monument.

With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument.

We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument.

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile

Define inappropriate?

For example, would "I love boobies" be filtered?
What about names that are accidentally mistaken as inappropriate?
Or if a Dev has a personal gripe against a player?

...

Caldari State
#13 - 2014-02-13 11:56:10 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Serenity character names will be included on the monument.

With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument.

We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument.

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile



I look forward to a bunch of drunk nerds scouring the statue at the next Fanfest for names you missed. You can't possibly get them all

Rawvag Queefpants or something equally ridiculous will be immortalized on that statue. Mark my words.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.

#14 - 2014-02-13 11:56:44 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile


Well, there goes my plan to make a character named Esteban Cockrocket. :(

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.

The-Culture
#15 - 2014-02-13 12:27:28 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Serenity character names will be included on the monument.

With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument.

We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument.

Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.

Smile

Glad to hear they're being included.
I have mixed feelings about the filter though.
Will the account be stricken from the list or. Will the next alt be used( assuming one is present )?
SE7EN-SINS
#16 - 2014-02-13 12:41:50 UTC
what happens to all the anmes you deam to be not allowed to go onto the monument?,

will you also change them in game becasue that is only logical. if its deemed to be inaproprate to go onto this statue then sould it be in game as well?
#17 - 2014-02-13 12:48:37 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
what happens to all the anmes you deam to be not allowed to go onto the monument?,

will you also change them in game becasue that is only logical. if its deemed to be inaproprate to go onto this statue then sould it be in game as well?


Are you basing that logic on the perceived fact that real life people and places should adhere to game rules?

"Are you going to start feeding chicken legs in hospitals to heal people?" is basically what you're saying.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.

#18 - 2014-02-13 12:49:23 UTC
There's no time for us,
There's no place for us,
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away from us.

Who wants to live forever,
Who wants to live forever.....?
There's no chance for us,
It's all decided for us,
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-02-13 12:58:04 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
what happens to all the anmes you deam to be not allowed to go onto the monument?


They make it onto the CCP HQ bathroom wall instead.
The-Culture
#20 - 2014-02-13 13:07:16 UTC
Deano McCandless wrote:
There's no time for us,
There's no place for us,
What is this thing that builds our dreams, yet slips away from us.

Who wants to live forever,
Who wants to live forever.....?
There's no chance for us,
It's all decided for us,
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us.

Oh ****, another one.Shocked
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