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Dating in Ontario(around Toronto) SUCKS!(Semi Rant)

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XNCReman
Soviet Directorate of Eve
#1 - 2014-02-08 02:46:55 UTC
So yeah, getting a date around Toronto Ontario(anywhere with in a hour or two drive from this **** hole city) is impossible.

So I don't have very many friends or a large social network to meet women through, I have run into a brick wall when it comes to meeting and dating women.... Most of my interests are very male centric, I don't except to find young women my age volunteering at tank museum or at any other of my nerd interests.

I'm attractive, In shape and have a good job and spare time(which is being filled by eve online and hitting the gym) so in theory I should have no problem getting a date, guess what its impossible.

First attempt was approaching and meeting women in public places, IE malls, Book stores, Coffee Shops, Guess what this is a brick wall. Ever been to a place were women avoid eye contact with men at all times, and look at the ground all the time, and act terrified if you smile at them?, You'd except this in a place like Saudi Arabia. (Muslim women make eye contact more so then Canadian born women and are more friendly(not the I want to **** you kind of friendly) Even worse when you go out of their way to avoid you.(I have up on meeting women in public, and just eye **** them to troll them)

Oh maybe you should goto the bar or nightclub!, Haha, again they avoid all eye contact with you and stay with in their own little group here as well.

Online Dating! I was on here a year and a half, before I gave up and deleted my profile, I messages nearly 2000 women, only 5% wrote back( most of the responses where only 3 -4 word stances) and they always stopped messaging me back after 2 or 3 messages, I did meet two women off here, but only went on 1 date with and they never wanted to see me after words, Almost met another women who had a lot of common with, but she stopped messaging me back after 3 weeks of talking, right in a middle of making arrangements to meet up(what a *****), I also had a pile of women stop messaging me back when I mentioned I have never traveled and work a blue collar job and only have a high school diploma) I calculated out that my chances of meeting a women per message was 0.023% and it was going to take me 7000 messages and 5-6 years to get a girlfriend.

Here's the Kicker, which makes me think its not me! I set my location to somewhere in the US, California in particular, and I got way more positive response from women! I got three so and so likes you in one day, more then what I would get in 6 months, and the women wernt fat and ugly! and 20% of the women I contacted responded.

Speed Dating - Same as online dating, conversations tend to fall apart when you mention you only have a high-school diploma etc etc etc.

In conclusion, Canadian women are stuck up and have unrealistic standards, and if you don't have a very large social network to meet women through, you're ******, and likely to end up with first women who willing to date you even though your not a good match with her, honestly a real doll have more personality when a Canadian women does.
Eranicus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-02-08 05:24:59 UTC
Do what my cousin did, He went from Toronto to Mexico city spent 2 years there and went back to Canada married.

That was 10 years ago, now they got 2 beautiful kids and home made cooking
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-02-08 05:46:29 UTC
you can improve a few things by attending school again. a normal schedule, though, which is difficult for most people. if it's true that you are not physically repulsive, you'll have your wish and be swimming in girls. at first i thought one hookup per class would be ok but that became way too hectic and I was overwhelmed. i think one per semester is better.

other benefits of school have nothing to do with women or relationships directly, but together will improve your life synergistically. the broad improvements that come to mind include your thought processes will improve by becoming more accurate, and efficient, and correct, and more career options which are important for your longevity. it's also a great opportunity to focus on something you'll enjoy, and earn a sense of fulfillment.

I can't tell you what the women you met while speed dating think when they hear a guy say he hasn't continued his education past high school. in fact, unless you're looking for commitment I'm not sure it's a bad thing when they lose interest. but at the very least, an education is another discriminator that on paper appears better to have than not.

what's even better is there seems to be some similarities between people within areas of study. meaning, you'll find certain types in art, music, dance (my fav), science, business, math, english... and if you know a person's major, some basic questions are already answered.

...after noticing that my Exes have all had dance or volleyball in common, I've focused on it. without knowing it, I acted on my attraction to girls who have muscle tone, are ok with performing in front of people, are accustomed to competition, and have well-developed motor skills and fluidity of movement. in the case of dancers in particular, they're very good at picking up on physical cues, and did i mention fluidity of movement

what i propose isn't easy, but by the sound of it you're looking to make a drastic change in your life. I've been able to avoid student loans with the help of my veteran benefits, but if i have to begin using student loans, I will. there's also financial aid and tuition assistance available at a school you decide to attend (it's in their best interest to help you).

but remember, the key to this is brick and mortar school (physical school, not online)... and attend normal schedule classes during the day.

lastly, avoid the ones who think about tomorrow.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-02-08 06:45:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
oh and the term "dating" is very wishy-washy, and a bad goal to have. dating is limbo between hooking up and commitment, and even worse is it's past the hooking up, which is the fun part, in the commitment sequence of meet->date->engaged->married. i would think you'd be interested in either hookups or commitment. it might help to define your goal a little more clearly.

i've been to canada. winnipeg, specifically, and I liked what i saw there. between the two possibilities of you not quite getting it and all women in your city conspiring against you, I think one is more likely than the other... wouldn't you agree?

as for your online dating profile success after listing your location as CA, I think that can be explained by the novelty of being from somewhere else, assuming you mentioned that you grew up in canada. i can think of a lot of women who would like the idea of moving away with someone, and your profile probably presented the possibility.

being from somewhere else is sexy, and if you meet the love of your life it's a good idea to move away. far, far away from any possible eskimo brother reunions.

as for me, I think the initial hooking up is the best part of meeting someone, so I've decided to repeat the sequence like groundhog day. I've been married, to a fantastic, beautiful, energetic specimen of the feminine, but in that relationship and all the others I couldn't find a solution to the staleness that sets in over time. therefore, groundhog day.
Luej
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-02-08 07:18:38 UTC
You just got no game to be honest
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-02-08 07:23:21 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2014-02-08 15:06:20 UTC
What is described in the initial post, with a few key word changes, is exactly the same situation as what started going on in the gay community in San Francisco around 1999 or so when social media seriously began to get it's stranglehold on the sensibilities of the populace.

I have remained single since 2002 due to this same situation.

And with 12 years of occasional pondering since, I am no closer to an answer or a solution.

I'm not sure if social media is the thing that changed the dynamics of meeting partners, or if it's a combination of that along with other things. But yes, it is hard to meet people, either online or in real life, for partnership possibilities.

Really, it's best in this situation to just knuckle down and get on with your life. Do what you want to do, go where you want to go, read the books you always meant to but didn't, the movies you missed and wanted to see, etc. etc.

Just build and enrich your own life and be patient. Craft yourself. Make yourself what you really are.

Anyone worthy of your interest will eventually step out of the woodwork. And if not, well, honestly, and this is after 4 relationships over 24 years, it's not really all it's cracked up to be. That's honestly a string of 4 life-disappointments and nothing more, and the end is always ugly. Real ugly.

Just don't pressure yourself into a situation out of hormonal desperation. That's always disastrous as well.

Be happy with yourself and your life first. Another person is not going to ever fill whatever empty hole you are perceiving that's pestering you.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-02-08 15:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
Yes many people have high expectations of what it is suitable as a partner, this is true for both men AND women.
You can blame the media for that

Just look at the Perfume, Cosmetics and Clothing adverts
People are conditioned to expect those idealised body types
when the truth is those body types are the minority

Like you, I'm not overly successful either in forming relationships or maintaining them
Unlike you, I'm not overly bothered by it because I have a sweet combination of Dyspraxia, ADD & Aspergers
From observing the people I've known over the years I would say you appear desperate to the woman you are approaching
For women this a big NOPE!! in their selection process.

Friendzone them, women hate it, that's THIER job and you as a man are not allowed to dammit!!.
Then ignore them, that irritates the **** out of them too (you should be able to work out why quite easily, if you can't then that's part of your problem).
XNCReman
Soviet Directorate of Eve
#9 - 2014-02-08 21:43:31 UTC
I have Aspergers too, sometimes I think they pick up on it even though I try to hide it, this is something I will never tell them, because people think autism is the same as mental retardation caused by vaccines>< not the polar opposite.(thats another rant)

Yeah, I'm kinda looking for a relationship that’s in between hooking up(which I don't like, and does not fulfill my emotional needs) and having a long term committed relationship(right away) and I noticed most women want one extreme or another..

I'm 27, and I have full time job that pays well and I work for one of largest company’s in Canada and I don't want to go 40,000 dollars(I have no dept what so ever) into dept go to university. and I want a women my own age.

Though women around my age are looking to get married and start having children right away, and basically have a time table for this(this is probably why one of the women I met online rejected me, because I did not want to get married in less then 2 years, and have six kids)I do not want to get married, I’m very open to the idea of having children, being a good father is more important then marriage. I also question the concept of "monogamy"(again this is a different discussion, nor something I should mention to women)

Again, women still reject me based on my job, not traveling the world and lack of post secondary education, which is stupid. All my requirements for a women are, Must take care of her self, have some common interest(like the outdoors), Is nice and reasonable sane!
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-02-09 00:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
man, most of the girls i've met either have an adderall prescription, or wish they did, and the rest don't care what you'll do when they're not around. so unless you're looking for a new mom, as long as you're functional people don't care about asperger's. btw is that a self-diagnosis or is it professional one?

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Yeah, I'm kinda looking for a relationship that’s in between hooking up(which I don't like, and does not fulfill my emotional needs) and having a long term committed relationship(right away) and I noticed most women want one extreme or another..

you're allowed to think & feel what you want. assuming you're right about women having defined goals, as women they probably have an easy time finding what they want. i know you still need to grasp this concept because otherwise you wouldn't attempt cold pickups... they're for "sup" or "o.m.g. marry me" but not "hi, i was just wondering if you're looking for something in the middle... and sadly no i don't mean that in the fun sense." that you attempted them, though, is awesome and same goes for the speed dating, that's brave.

define what it is you want, in one word.

example / i'll go first: "sex."

now your turn
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#11 - 2014-02-09 00:34:21 UTC
Luej wrote:
You just got no game to be honest


that's what it sounds like to me. Blink
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-02-09 00:37:28 UTC
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-02-09 03:50:11 UTC
Matokin Lemant
#14 - 2014-02-09 06:01:50 UTC
XNCReman wrote:
So yeah, getting a date around Toronto Ontario(anywhere with in a hour or two drive from this **** hole city) is impossible.

So I don't have very many friends or a large social network to meet women through, I have run into a brick wall when it comes to meeting and dating women.... Most of my interests are very male centric, I don't except to find young women my age volunteering at tank museum or at any other of my nerd interests.

I'm attractive, In shape and have a good job and spare time(which is being filled by eve online and hitting the gym) so in theory I should have no problem getting a date, guess what its impossible.

First attempt was approaching and meeting women in public places, IE malls, Book stores, Coffee Shops, Guess what this is a brick wall. Ever been to a place were women avoid eye contact with men at all times, and look at the ground all the time, and act terrified if you smile at them?, You'd except this in a place like Saudi Arabia. (Muslim women make eye contact more so then Canadian born women and are more friendly(not the I want to **** you kind of friendly) Even worse when you go out of their way to avoid you.(I have up on meeting women in public, and just eye **** them to troll them)

Oh maybe you should goto the bar or nightclub!, Haha, again they avoid all eye contact with you and stay with in their own little group here as well.

Online Dating! I was on here a year and a half, before I gave up and deleted my profile, I messages nearly 2000 women, only 5% wrote back( most of the responses where only 3 -4 word stances) and they always stopped messaging me back after 2 or 3 messages, I did meet two women off here, but only went on 1 date with and they never wanted to see me after words, Almost met another women who had a lot of common with, but she stopped messaging me back after 3 weeks of talking, right in a middle of making arrangements to meet up(what a *****), I also had a pile of women stop messaging me back when I mentioned I have never traveled and work a blue collar job and only have a high school diploma) I calculated out that my chances of meeting a women per message was 0.023% and it was going to take me 7000 messages and 5-6 years to get a girlfriend.

Here's the Kicker, which makes me think its not me! I set my location to somewhere in the US, California in particular, and I got way more positive response from women! I got three so and so likes you in one day, more then what I would get in 6 months, and the women wernt fat and ugly! and 20% of the women I contacted responded.

Speed Dating - Same as online dating, conversations tend to fall apart when you mention you only have a high-school diploma etc etc etc.

In conclusion, Canadian women are stuck up and have unrealistic standards, and if you don't have a very large social network to meet women through, you're ******, and likely to end up with first women who willing to date you even though your not a good match with her, honestly a real doll have more personality when a Canadian women does.


I feel for you man I really do, but you should try it in Newfoundland if you think Ontario is bad.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2014-02-09 07:42:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
seeing matokin's post caused me reconsider your profile experience, and i think there's some truth to it, that your dating experience might be better elsewhere and the women friendlier. CA's population is three times that of Ontario, with 1/3 the area. the median age of females in CA is 6 years lower (36) than that of Ontario (42), and then there's the excellent weather, and culture beyond hockey. i was stationed in North Dakota for almost two years, and remember it snowing as early as Halloween, so i'm sure Ontario is far more unpleasant, especially right now and the weeks leading up to your thread.

relocating isn't such a bad idea. i'm pretty sure i'll find myself working in northern Europe eventually, for ...culture. and women with ice blue eyes, fair skin, and ink-black hair.
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2014-02-09 07:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
confirming that 7 has a fetish for the aforementioned complexion.

and that yeah, maybe there's a cultural disconnect. Californians get out more and any sun at all is reason for women to dress light.

im in los angeles, which is ...well, los angeles: population 3.8M, compared to Ontario's 13.8M. maybe the 'swimming in girls' thing doesn't... apply at your schools. or country

Ugh
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#17 - 2014-02-09 08:28:28 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:


that like was simply because you dissuaded me from actually typing up and posting an informative (and, who knows? maybe even helpful) response from the feminine perspective. saved me some time. which i used most constructively elsewhere. Big smile
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2014-02-09 08:46:45 UTC
ahhhhhahahahhaha hahahhahhahhhhhhah you had your chance to say something, but you decided to act like one of the cool kids in middle school. hhahhhhhhahahaahahhh

fear not, OP, you are not missing out on anything

hhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa eevee you made me lol
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-02-09 13:00:01 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
ahhhhhahahahhaha hahahhahhahhhhhhah you had your chance to say something, but you decided to act like one of the cool kids in middle school. hhahhhhhhahahaahahhh

fear not, OP, you are not missing out on anything

hhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa eevee you made me lol

hey 9, you just don't have game. do you even lift, brah?



just had to see that attempted guilt trippery again. that might work on your boyfriend but i'm not him.

gyad. every time i think about it, i just Lol
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#20 - 2014-02-09 13:57:32 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Rain6639 wrote:
ahhhhhahahahhaha hahahhahhahhhhhhah you had your chance to say something, but you decided to act like one of the cool kids in middle school. hhahhhhhhahahaahahhh

fear not, OP, you are not missing out on anything

hhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa eevee you made me lol

hey 9, you just don't have game. do you even lift, brah?



just had to see that attempted guilt trippery again. that might work on your boyfriend but i'm not him.

gyad. every time i think about it, i just Lol


Why you so mean 7?

Now you know why I prefer 9. Lol
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