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Possible Balance of Armor and shields
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#1 - 2011-11-26 14:34:24 UTC
I believe I have come up with a way to overcome the weaknesses of armor versus shield as it relates to applied dps. The solution I have come up with would actually apply more dps to shield boats than armor boats. It could create some new tactics but this would also really upset the game as it now stands. Originally, like everyone else, I was looking at hybrids with this idea of mine that blaster should shoot like shotguns and a battleship should be able to knock out tackling frigates in one or two shots like a smartbomb but turret based. This same solution makes it harder to get under rails. I need to run hundreds of combinations through my very simple spreadsheet.

My first tries are overpowered but amusing. I essentially triple applied dps on a shield BC versus an Armor BC at the same ranges and transversals. Since I still have about 50 million in Hurricane blueprints, should I keep this secret till after the expansion?
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#2 - 2011-11-26 15:44:49 UTC
Wut? What?

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Amsterdam Conversations
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-11-26 15:45:39 UTC
Yeah.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-26 15:49:57 UTC
nah

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Pasha Cracken
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#5 - 2011-11-26 15:51:47 UTC
Theres a ideas forum that way--->
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-26 17:10:45 UTC
Fascinating.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#7 - 2011-11-26 17:29:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
Got to thinking.. maybe i'm the dragonborn and just don't know it yet.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#8 - 2011-11-26 18:19:00 UTC
2/10 troll
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2011-11-26 18:42:50 UTC
armor will make you slow, lower your dps (take low slots)...
shield will make your signature bigger (everything hits you harder), lower your ewar capabilities (med slots)

only problem is lack of implant sets for both armor and shield...

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-11-26 19:31:08 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
I believe I have come up with a way to overcome the weaknesses of armor versus shield as it relates to applied dps. The solution I have come up with would actually apply more dps to shield boats than armor boats. It could create some new tactics but this would also really upset the game as it now stands. Originally, like everyone else, I was looking at hybrids with this idea of mine that blaster should shoot like shotguns and a battleship should be able to knock out tackling frigates in one or two shots like a smartbomb but turret based. This same solution makes it harder to get under rails. I need to run hundreds of combinations through my very simple spreadsheet.

My first tries are overpowered but amusing. I essentially triple applied dps on a shield BC versus an Armor BC at the same ranges and transversals. Since I still have about 50 million in Hurricane blueprints, should I keep this secret till after the expansion?



hem, the issue is not the balance of uber shields vs weak armor, shields have their advantages has armor but, shield logistics are far too powerful to be the easiest choice for sure.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-11-26 21:26:34 UTC
I, too, like pie.
Generals4
#12 - 2011-11-26 21:29:30 UTC
My Cake > this topic.

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Nikola Aivoras
Mercantilist Corporation of New Eden
#13 - 2011-11-26 21:59:38 UTC
*Puffs on pipe*

I say, old chap, you've stumbled upon a marvelous discovery.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-11-26 22:23:15 UTC
Garnoo wrote:
armor will make you slow, lower your dps (take low slots)...
shield will make your signature bigger (everything hits you harder), lower your ewar capabilities (med slots)

only problem is lack of implant sets for both armor and shield...



Shield has passive regen, armor has higher base resists.

Armor has a passive omni hardener (lower resist numbers), shield has an active omni hardener (higher resist numbers, uses cap)

Armor has an oversized passive module (1600 plate), shield has oversized active module (XL booster)

I think there's a couple more things I'm forgetting, but yeah, there is balance in there.
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-11-26 22:26:51 UTC
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-26 23:55:57 UTC
in a fire


you know the rest
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#17 - 2011-11-27 00:01:12 UTC
I too am impressed with myself. I heard the expansion is only a few days away. Its to late now I think. Besides we have to much rebalancing going on. Who could possibly want to turn this game so totally upside down with something like the greatest idea of our time?
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-11-27 00:12:27 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
I too am impressed with myself. I heard the expansion is only a few days away. Its to late now I think. Besides we have to much rebalancing going on. Who could possibly want to turn this game so totally upside down with something like the greatest idea of our time?


You know, sometimes the real great ideas are so ahead of their times, that their creators are often ridiculed.
It is very important that you hold on to your vision, and never doubt yourself. Believe in yourself and the rest of the world will believe in you.
Maybe, some day, we might have evolved enough to follow you through.
In the meantime, fight for your idea. Make threads like these every single day, spread the word, never stop posting, never stop believing!


yours, Zimmy

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#19 - 2011-11-27 00:20:24 UTC
Thank you Zimmy, Thank you.
Amro One
One.
#20 - 2011-11-27 01:05:08 UTC
I hope he gets hit by a car.
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