EVE General Discussion

I've been away for a few months and we're recording the next High Drag Podcast tonight. I'm looking for some answers / observations about the supposed HISEC POCO wars.

Did this ever stir things up in HISEC? Is there a major organization that is controlling key planets? Has this affected your ability to execute PI? Are you a mercenary that has seen increased busniess since HISEC POCOs were controllable by players?

Please share your observations and experience.

Keep looking then.

Opening up HISEC POCOs to player control was supposed to legitimize war in HISEC space. I am trying to figure out if the silence in regards to this notion is because A) I have been away from the game or B) this hasn't really stirred the pot at all.

Actually, they were trying to introduce a conflict driver into highsec. Unfortunately highsec is adverse to conflict and just accepted one source of taxation for another with very little opposition. I have seen entire systems worth of POCOs reinforced, but that craze has died down recently.

Or highsecers just stop doing the activity. Creating conflict drivers on assets that would cost more to defend in a week then you can get out of them in a month isn't a very good move. Post rubicon, I shut down all 25 of my PI colonies when taxes went up to 30% under new ownership. Simply because those new owners were too big to fight, and their terms for getting "blue status" to lower the taxes was either just as much of a wallet hit as the tax, if not more.

BTW ccp, that also pans out to one, possibly two less subscriptions being active. A hell of a lot more if you take into account everyone elses colony alt/accounts that are closing.

Just do it in Low Sec. Period.

But really, I only use 2 high sec planets as factory planets, the rest are in low sec (total of 28). Highest Corp tax on any of them is 2%. Those factory planets are at 20% exactly. As is every HS POCO within 3 systems. And they are all owned by same Corporation in all the systems. This is the situation out in the a**-end of Ammater at least.

Not helpful really, but I'm sure there is a whole variety of situation going on.

It's amazing how many EVE players are too settled to get up and actually move. And I don't mean the occasional move away from their keyboards.

Jump to assumptions much? I'm a nomadic player in general and 10 of those colonies were always moving to provide a POS fuel localization service for folks. When it becomes a reoccuring issue where the folks who want you to make fuel at their doorstep do so because the tax is too, high, and you have to decline because the tax is too high, the business dies. Also, as for not moving, I operate in all 4 empires and shift between them monthly via jump

First, you have to declare war, which costs ISK. Most highseccers are war adversed anyways, and adversed to spending ISK, so the chances of a highsec entity actually declaring war is very low. On top of that, it would require cooperation between more than 2 people to get the job done, and highsec cooperation is like herding cats, so that's another strike. But then theres the big thing: When you declare war, the other party can shoot back! Having the unknown of someone potentially shooting back is too much for the average highseccer.

Now, there will be exceptions to the above, but those exceptions will be the highsec wing of a null entity or someone who isn't afraid of some pew with something that isn't a bunch of red crosses on the overview.

Right. Hold the playerbase responsible for your sub-par equipment. Yup, it's all our fault.

You are better off with a psychologist to deal with this kind of petty but huge whining about your personal financial life in general, that matters not to CCP or other players.

The problem with them as conflict drivers is that there isn't really any-way to secure a POCO in high-sec. Anybody can anchor a POCO in highsec around a planet when the previous POCO is destroyed, even the previous owner. So you can just sit cloaked in your hauler of choice, wait for the aggressors to do all the dirty work & take all the risks associated with starting a war (ally's & putting ships in space to shoot it) and then spam the launch/anchor button when the poco dies (You can just use a neutral alt in some ship to keep the dying POCO locked so you know when it's going to die to get your trigger finger ready). And then the aggressor's have to do the whole structure grind all over again.

The only time they are really ever shot as part of high-sec wars is to try and force somebody to undock, and against people who stay docked the whole war they just use the cloaked neutral iteron method to try and retain the POCO, then can transfer ownership of it back to the main corp after the war ends.

Anyone who tries to do POCO bashing as a living can easily just get followed/added to the address book of opportunistic POCO droppers who can follow them, let them do the dirty work, then ninja anchor.