EVE General Discussion

Common sense would dictate that one should read the OP, interpret from it that the poster did not read the patch notes and then recognize and see that the last question of the OP was, "Or is this intentional?"

All the first responder needed to do was say, 'Yes this change was intentional and you can read up on it in Patch # .......

But no this is general discussion where no one knows how to answer a question properly.

Point, set and match.

Nice way of showing you have been living under a rock for the last couple of months. Are you familiar with the concept of patch notes?

While you may be content with your dimwitted comeback, you fail to see that my original question, "Are you familiar with the concept of patch notes?" already covered all of those assumptions regarding the OP.

Please try to improve your reading comprehension skills before you try to lecture others on how to address silly questions.

I will concur that perhaps people like the OP and you do need to have everything spelled out for them in the most simple terms..

You presume that it is somehow our duty to inform the clueless and the lazy. It is not.

Ships & Modules....

See, above we have a nice and simple question. No flames and simple statement about an observation and then asking if it was planned and if not if it has been recognized. Hell, he also admits that he may have missed the reported change.

Following that we have the typical GD ass hat response in the form of an insult and then a half assed attempt to point the OP in the some vague direction to the patch notes. Your response did nothing.





You also seem to have missed my prior comment on how not everyone has the time to keep up with patch notes and the General Discussion is the place to come and ask simple questions like this.

P.S. Someone calling another out about insults when their original question was preceded by an insult is pure hypocrisy

P.S.S. If you really were an intelligent individual and wanted to actually help the community you would have provided the OP with a link to the patch notes that contained the changes....But I guess that was too much work for someone of your capacity.

Umm, no, that's for noobs as you might gather from the name of it.

Hey everyone.

I want to officially clarify that the fact that drone attributes are not properly displaying in show info is a bug and that your Omnis are in fact applying their bonuses correctly.
The issue with show info is a long standing bug that has to do with the way the client displays attributes on items that aren't your ship (or directly fitted to your ship). We're looking into getting it fixed, but it's not a simple issue.

As for the discussion on the strength of Sentry drones after this change, I will reiterate what I've said before. We don't want to make Sentries just like other weapons, the fact that they are very distinct with their own strengths, weaknesses and tactics is part of what makes them valuable to the game. We do always want to ensure that they have excellent strengths to make up for their special weaknesses.
But the honest truth is that Sentries were too good relative to other comparable weapons. Their damage envelope (the combination of range, damage and tracking) is very good and was one of several contributing factors that were leading to Sentries becoming overly dominant in almost all areas of EVE. Like I said in the original post, the fact that these changes reduce the power of Omnis is completely intentional.
Nerfing the base stats of sentries while leaving the incredibly effective Omnis was not going to be the best way to approach the issue, as that would leave us in a place where Sentries would have been underpowered when no Omnis are fitted and overpowered when people stack lots of them. We totally understand that bringing Omnidirectionals in line was a bitter pill to swallow for people who use Sentries a lot, but we are confident that the game is in a better place with these changes then it would be without them.

There are obviously lots of other changes we need to make to drones and the ships that use them, but the best way to approach these kinds of issues is in an iterative manner, making focused changes and watching the results carefully.

We also are aware that the Rattlesnake isn't in quite as strong of a place as many other Pirate BS right now, and that is high on our agenda at the moment.

This is sad but true. I used to run L4s in a Myrmidon. Did it for over a year, loved every moment of it. Then came the first "drone hate" patch. Heavy drones became the laughing stock of EvE and your lights & mediums draw so much aggro that actually tanking your ship became pointless, because the rats never actually fired at you, just your drones.

Traded up to a Gila, then a Rattlesnake, basically as an excuse to switch to sentries. At least those I know I can recall in time when twenty rats decide to alpha my drones one second after launch.

But that wasn't good enough, obviously, because now they've nerfed all the sentries as well. Which comes as a total surprise to exactly no drone boat user ever.

Good thing I still have mining to fall back on for my EvE excitement, eh?

don't use a myrmidon. it is not a viable ship anymore.