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Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#21 - 2014-02-04 21:54:24 UTC
Let's not count our blessings before the holy water lands upon our heads. It is still up to the pilots on the front line to make a victory out of such an event.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2014-02-04 21:54:51 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The Fweddit/Death by Design war is still fresh in the memory of the Amarr militia. Going back further, LNA has been at war with Ushra'Khan, and Locus Industries was wardeced by my own corp at the time, the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown.

Civil wars within militias are yearly ordeals from my experience.


I apologize. I was unaware of these conflicts. Did they extend to cripple the most loyal Amarr Militia factions' credibility via acts of piracy, causing allies to be forced to take them out?

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Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#23 - 2014-02-04 21:56:42 UTC
Yes, they did. Death by Design still resides in Kamela but will likely never join the Amarr militia again. Ushra'Khan was arguably forced out of the warzone by LNA, while Locus Industries collapsed.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2014-02-04 21:58:12 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Yes, they did. Death by Design still resides in Kamela but will likely never join the Amarr militia again. Ushra'Khan was arguably forced out of the warzone by LNA, while Locus Industries collapsed.


Ah. Then I stand corrected.

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Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2014-02-04 22:00:06 UTC
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The Fweddit/Death by Design war is still fresh in the memory of the Amarr militia. Going back further, LNA has been at war with Ushra'Khan, and Locus Industries was wardeced by my own corp at the time, the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown.

Civil wars within militias are yearly ordeals from my experience.


I apologize. I was unaware of these conflicts. Did they extend to cripple the most loyal Amarr Militia factions' credibility via acts of piracy, causing allies to be forced to take them out?


Very often, it's the curse of success in faction warfare, it seems. When the forces dominating the field realize how little they're being compensated relative to nullsec corporations, someone is going to decide on a more profitable venture. Sort of the same issue empires have regarding their ability to fall into war over and over again, it doesn't take many people to polarize opinions, but it takes a lot of people to normalize relations.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2014-02-04 22:01:15 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
The Fweddit/Death by Design war is still fresh in the memory of the Amarr militia. Going back further, LNA has been at war with Ushra'Khan, and Locus Industries was wardeced by my own corp at the time, the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown.

Civil wars within militias are yearly ordeals from my experience.


I apologize. I was unaware of these conflicts. Did they extend to cripple the most loyal Amarr Militia factions' credibility via acts of piracy, causing allies to be forced to take them out?


Very often, it's the curse of success in faction warfare, it seems. When the forces dominating the field realize how little they're being compensated relative to nullsec corporations, someone is going to decide on a more profitable venture. Sort of the same issue empires have regarding their ability to fall into war over and over again, it doesn't take many people to polarize opinions, but it takes a lot of people to normalize relations.


How unfortunate. I pray that PIE does not fall to the same temptation when they gain territory.

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Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#27 - 2014-02-04 22:04:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
That, I assure you Lord Draconis, will never happen.

And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2014-02-04 22:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulxanis Viceroy
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
That, I assure you Lord Draconis, will never happen.

And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


I certainly hope so.

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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2014-02-04 22:46:55 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:


And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


Fascinating. According to a books I once read about posture, it could mean "defensiveness" or• "it may indicate that the person is (slightly) reserved, uncomfortable with their appearance (self-conscious and trying to cover it), or just trying to hide something on their shirt. If their arms are crossed while their feet are shoulder width or wider apart, this is a position of toughness or authority." I'll have to expand the pictures and see about that last part! Purely for observational purposes of course.
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2014-02-04 22:49:24 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:


And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


Fascinating. According to a books I once read about posture, it could mean "defensiveness" or• "it may indicate that the person is (slightly) reserved, uncomfortable with their appearance (self-conscious and trying to cover it), or just trying to hide something on their shirt. If their arms are crossed while their feet are shoulder width or wider apart, this is a position of toughness or authority." I'll have to expand the pictures and see about that last part! Purely for observational purposes of course.


Reserved?
Perhaps.

Defensive or self-conscious?
No.

Toughness or Authority?
Does it show?

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Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
#31 - 2014-02-04 22:53:07 UTC
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:


And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


Fascinating. According to a books I once read about posture, it could mean "defensiveness" or• "it may indicate that the person is (slightly) reserved, uncomfortable with their appearance (self-conscious and trying to cover it), or just trying to hide something on their shirt. If their arms are crossed while their feet are shoulder width or wider apart, this is a position of toughness or authority." I'll have to expand the pictures and see about that last part! Purely for observational purposes of course.


I was eating chips and salsa before the photographer called me in and whadayaknow I got some on my shirt.

"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri)
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2014-02-04 22:53:36 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
That, I assure you Lord Draconis, will never happen.

And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


I'm using my pilot's license portrait. The particular station I had the picture taken at told me to cross my arms so that they could register my build and turned me slightly so that I could be recognized in profile as well as in portrait.

So... my arms are crossed so that CONCORD can tell if I rob a convenience store.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2014-02-04 22:56:29 UTC
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#34 - 2014-02-04 23:02:04 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

When I am unwilling to share information, I just become a smartass. No defensive posture neededLol

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2014-02-04 23:10:59 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

When I am unwilling to share information, I just become a smartass. No defensive posture neededLol


Also got trained about this type. :)

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2014-02-04 23:11:51 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.


I don't know what you're talking about, sir.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#37 - 2014-02-04 23:18:05 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

When I am unwilling to share information, I just become a smartass. No defensive posture neededLol


Also got trained about this type. :)

What are the official guidelines on it? People normally just get angry and try to pod me....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Kale Silence
Doomheim
#38 - 2014-02-04 23:19:56 UTC
Theobar Cresthill wrote:
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:


And I just noticed that all three of us have crossed arms in our pilot portraits. Not sure why that amused me so much.


Fascinating. According to a books I once read about posture, it could mean "defensiveness" or• "it may indicate that the person is (slightly) reserved, uncomfortable with their appearance (self-conscious and trying to cover it), or just trying to hide something on their shirt. If their arms are crossed while their feet are shoulder width or wider apart, this is a position of toughness or authority." I'll have to expand the pictures and see about that last part! Purely for observational purposes of course.


I was eating chips and salsa before the photographer called me in and whadayaknow I got some on my shirt.


The OP of this thread also has his arms crossed, if you notice. Although his position is... shall we say, unorthodox?

He honestly looks like he is about to feint. Like someone had clobbered his head and his arms haven't fallen yet.
Kale Silence
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-02-04 23:20:45 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

When I am unwilling to share information, I just become a smartass. No defensive posture neededLol


Also got trained about this type. :)

What are the official guidelines on it? People normally just get angry and try to pod me....


Do you think tickling would be a better approach?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2014-02-04 23:23:10 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
In training I was taught to recognise this as a posture indicating an unwillingness to share information. Usually perpe... I mean suspects... utilising this bodylanguage must be watched for potential violent outbursts during questioning.

When I am unwilling to share information, I just become a smartass. No defensive posture neededLol


Also got trained about this type. :)

What are the official guidelines on it? People normally just get angry and try to pod me....


Official guidelines call for placing the recalcitrant smart ass in various stress positions, followed by sleep deprivation and other enhanced interrogation techniques. A couple of thousand volts usually wipe that attitude away.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.