EVE General Discussion

Your call, EVE is big boy land, if you can't deal with the consequences of your mistakes, stop making them.

I'm simply telling you to stop jumping to unfounded conclusions (ie "lp is the problem") and instead spend the time listening.

I've seen thukker mentioned as being a high isk to LP but I'm not sure what people are buying with their LP to convert. Anyone know?

Good post, Mara. And what you said is exactly the reason which leads me to believe not a lot of players are blitzing missions. Otherwise, you wouldn't see the times we see allotted to clear missions in order to earn the bonus. To my understanding, the bonus time adjusts itself in relation to the average it takes to complete the mission. For example, last time I checked, Worlds Collide has a bonus time of appx. 5.5 hrs.

*IF* blitzing missions is indeed causing a problem, then this is probably where CCP needs to look. But, after 100 pages there is still no proof to be had that '100 mil plus' is the 'norm', or that it is even sustainable. I shutter at the thought of logging in for even three hours just to blaze through missions; never mind doing it for days on end. I enjoy my time doing missions. But, that's just me.

Nomad implants.

Stoicfaux provided the proof there is evidence of ~100m isk/hr from highsec missions and I provided proof that ~70m isk/hr for drone hub ratting. All of this stuff has been provided but, you all don't read it and continue to scream as loud as you can that highsec is fine. The only one of you that even attempted to prove this was Kimmi the others are either terminally stupid or shitposting. There's been plenty of proof provided by the pro-nullsec crowd and yet all the pro-highsec crowd, aside from a select few, is scream incoherently.

If removing blitzing isn't enough then the other two ideas that haven't been addressed are stretching missions through multiple systems or adding high HP low isk/LP enemies to missions.

The problem, mister science teacher, is that you spend more time accusing others of not listening when you yourself don't listen and instead go on spouting 13-year-old mantra, like "pubbie" and such stuff.

I have no reason to doubt that Stoic indeed ran 34 missions to average 100+ mill. He provided evidence that it is indeed possible to achieve 100+. BUT, and here is where you fail or do not care to listen, that does not indicate that this is the norm or even sustainable, as has been claimed earlier in the thread.

It doesnt matter if a lot of people don't do it, it matters because the people from null can do it and are doing it.

Its much like when we ran our ice interdictions. Everyone knew it was happening yet out of 600 killed macks not a single one had tanked their ship.

We have told you we are doing this, we have shown you that we can do this and we have told you how to do this. Yet people still continue trying to say its not happening. We have infact provided you with more evidence than we provided to CCP when we were abusing FW to make tens of billions.

CCP, please do for officer, sleeper and faction modules what you did for Meta 4 items -boost drop rates so prices go down the drain, it's not a sign of obscene wealth to have them and suicide ganking will be profitable only against haulers running solo.

That's a self-selecting sample set right there, unless you're also claiming that you killed every single Mackinaw you saw?

The issue isn't that 100M ISK/hr is possible, the issue for you null sec people is that you know someone who does it as their main form of income. A 100M ISK/hr income is not common. If everyone was blitzing missions, the missions wouldn't be worth as much as they are. Blitzing is only worth as much as it is because a small proportion of the mission runners blitz those missions.

If anyone wants to dispute this claim (that shorter completion times affect the mission rewards) just take a look at "Materials for War Preparation": the completion time listed is 15 minutes, it's worth very little apart from the implant.

So to you null sec folk: if you feel that the income is unbalanced and needs to be adjusted, there is a simple fix: come to hi sec and blitz the life out of hi sec missions. This will give you a high income, while simultaneously messing up the game for everyone else. It's win-win!

There is no time-to-complete adjustment for anomalies: you will get the same reward time after time regardless of how quickly or slowly you complete the site.

Several days. You have seven days minus a few minutes to complete most missions. The six hours is the cutoff for the bonus rewards.