Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just make a TFI variant that is easier to shield tank. Instead of a new faction, it can be introduced by a private corp that does extreme aftermarket modifications to existing hulls.

We have
Caldari/Amarr (Sansha)
Caldari/Gallente (Guristas)
Amarr/Gallente (SOE)
Amarr/Minmatar (Blood Raiders)
Minmatar/Gallente (Serpentis)
Minmatar/Gallente AGAIN (Angel)


When CCP does come out with a Caldari/Minmatar Pirate ship it will be Thukker Tribe.
Caldari ships are mostly shield and missile ships
Minmatar ships come as armor or shield and can have turret or missiles

The only npc group that would make a missile ship from both is the Thukker Tribe.
It can get a missile bonus from the Caldari and another bonus from Minmatar
It will also get a good role bonus that should work good with the missiles as well

Nestor armor
Vindicator armor
Bhaalgorn armor
Machariel shield or armor
Rattlesnake shield
Nightmare shield

Thukker Tribe should have a slot layout like the Machariel and could be armor tanked for the people wanting to use TP or Web or shield tanked for people who wish to use rigs to help out with missile damage.

I am sure missile many missile ship pilot will love to fly it and I am sure many ganker can not wait to shoot us down flying it as well.

As a pilot that uses both Caldari and Minmatar ships all the time I think a Thukker Tribe ship will make a great ship to have in the game.

Even if ccp did change the Rattlesnake the game is still mission a Caldari/Minmatar ship.

Equalibirm of Mankind does need some work done to them but seeing as they fly armar ships it still does not solve the problem of the game missing a Caldari/Minmatar ship .

Equilibrium of Mankind info for thoes that do not fell like looking it up . https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind


I have not had any problems with missiles.
Why do you think they need fixing Arthur Aihaken ?

Mord's Legion would be the best bet for the next pirate faction ships. Thukker Tribe has agents in hisec, and I personally don't want to see those systems go the way the SoE systems have. However to add this content they would also need to add more agents/systems for Mord's Legion.

problem is still within missile launchers and ammo.very much doubt any pirate missiled based ship will make a difference

I quite like the idea of a Minmatar/Caldari faction line.

A number of times throughout this thread, it has been brought up that missile/shield boats would offer nothing new over the numerous missile/shield boats the Caldari line has to offer. I think, however, the Minmatar/Caldari line could be quite unique.

I'd like to see bonuses somthing like this;

Special Ability: Rapid Light Missile, Rapid Heavy Missile reload time reduction or launcher capacity increase (can't figure out what the frigate would do -- regular light missile damage bonus, I suppose).

Caldari: Ewar (TP/ECM) or Application (explosion velocity/radius) bonus

Minmatar: Shield Boost Amount bonus

Whereas Caldari missile/shield boats are almost all intended to be buffer missile throwers (the fact that many are active tanked only indicates that they are popular mission ships and are active tanked for that reason), this Minmatar/Caldari boat would be fast, favor active tanking and the new 'skirmish' style weapon systems, delivering bursts of high, well applied dps while coping with the incoming dps through speed and boosting instead of just soaking it up like so many slow Caldari missile boats.

EDIT: this assumes that issues with missiles (heavy missiles, in particular) are resolved and balanced.

No, no and no (in that order).
Rapid launchers need to be fixed separately. Granting a new hull a bonus to "fix" rapid launchers is endorsing the current implementation.

I did not say my idea was proposed to 'fix' rapid launchers. I like the idea of them. Currently, I think the RLML works pretty well (although the clip size could be a bit bigger). The RHML suffers because of heavy missiles, not because it's a rapid launcher (and do make note of my edit addressing this issue).

My idea was to propose a hull that worked well and with this 'skirmish' front-end ideology that CCP seems to like these days (ASB, AAR, RLML, RHML). The reload time reduction/clip capacity increase is not intended to 'fix' rapid launchers -- merely allow these pirate boats to use them for a longer duration/in more varied circumstances.