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Omni nerf...the death of the rattlesnake - R.I.P

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Eaphod
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-01-30 19:12:49 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Logical and factual post strikes OP for over 9000, sinking the OP's battleship whine post.


Even by these forum standards you are trying too hard to troll.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-01-30 20:37:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
or overheat the dam thing and get used to carrying paste.
and its not a nerf.

How is 18% for one attribute and 36% for another while requiring paste and 2 slots better than 25% for both from a single slot that required neither cap nor paste?

Edit: Agreed it's not the end of the world, but with a cheaper better option, most cases won't prefer the RS.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#23 - 2014-01-30 20:57:39 UTC
You people are amazing.

All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.

Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-01-31 00:42:34 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
You people are amazing.

All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.

Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.


For the love of god if a mid slot module ever give an application/range combo like a TC they better make the range portion a missile speed modifier and not flight time.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#25 - 2014-01-31 01:25:34 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.

Well there are target painters, but I agree that there should be something more specific to missiles that recoup a bit from the missile nerfs at least at expense to mid slots. Armor tank ships can sacrifice armor for damage (more low slots), but not so for shield tank ships apart from target painting. I've been considering on training up a rattler, but yes I'd prefer to be more close in anyway, and projecting more direct missile damage. I suppose that there are a lot of factors when using universal equipment rather than empire/ship restrictive equipment when trying to work out balancing across the board. If it took say Caldari equipment (some/most) to fit Caldari ships, balancing would be a bit more effortless to work out; more diversification in base technologies between the empires.

I'm in it for the money

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CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#26 - 2014-02-01 11:49:44 UTC
Do you think is dead? Yes it is, hand me that corpse and I'll make it rose from the death to beat the crap out of those evil NPCs.

Rattlesnake is still one of the best battleships out there, yes it got nerf, but that's because it's main weapons system was a little bit OP.

I use it everyday and will keep doing it for a long time because is an awesome ship.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#27 - 2014-02-01 12:08:22 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:
Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities.


Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. Roll

If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that! Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#28 - 2014-02-02 05:11:33 UTC
CMD Ishikawa wrote:


Rattlesnake is still one of the best battleships out there, yes it got nerf, but that's because it's main weapons system was a little bit OP.


The Rattlesnake is a great looking ship, but it is absolutely terrible. And it is now much worse than it was before.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Gh0stBust3rs
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#29 - 2014-02-02 06:43:10 UTC
Yes lose more rattlesnakes. I have 10 bpcs sitting in jita right now waiting for the price to semi recover.
Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#30 - 2014-02-02 10:01:22 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities.


Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. Roll

If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that! Twisted


Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#31 - 2014-02-02 10:25:26 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities.


Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. Roll

If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that! Twisted


Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard.



Read and comprehension done.

Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread.

You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#32 - 2014-02-02 11:08:35 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:
Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.

HML tengu - shafted
RLML cerberus - shafted
Rattlesnake - shafted

Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...

I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?

I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.

I guess the Mach is next in line huh?

Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!

Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!




100mn tengu's were really dumb

rlml cerbs were really really dumb

The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow)

Stop being bad (Trademarked.)

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#33 - 2014-02-02 12:30:47 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Once again I am forced to adapt. I need to find a new home...for my rattlesnake. That's the only way to beat this omni nerf. Change rats and change sentry and drone priorities.


Adapt or die! Evolution of the fittest works well in EVE. Roll

If you don't want to adapt go play wow or some shite like that! Twisted


Read and comprehend. It's really not that hard.



Read and comprehension done.

Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread.

You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine.


And you sound stupid because you keep on repeating yourself. Lol
Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#34 - 2014-02-02 12:33:50 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.

HML tengu - shafted
RLML cerberus - shafted
Rattlesnake - shafted

Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...

I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?

I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.

I guess the Mach is next in line huh?

Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!

Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!




100mn tengu's were really dumb

rlml cerbs were really really dumb

The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow)

Stop being bad (Trademarked.)


I can't help it if I'm bad. Blink
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#35 - 2014-02-02 19:36:36 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Gefen Orion wrote:
Seems like every good thing CCP makes have to be grounded down to crap nowadays. First it was heavy missiles, then RLML, then there was the TE nerf, now the omnis.

HML tengu - shafted
RLML cerberus - shafted
Rattlesnake - shafted

Now this really hurt me coz i really love this ship even after everybody told me to stay away from drones since i started playing around 2009, i told myself, CCP would come around on fixing drones and make them a dependable weapon platform. The RS was my very first faction BS and Im still using the very same RS that I bought way back in 2009. When the DDA and T2 omni modules came out, seems like my prayers were answered. Then came the AI drone agro, i adapted to that change...no biggie. Now they've nerfed the omnis...seems like the drone boats were thrown back to 2009 - 2010 era...

I haven't been paying attention to the boards lately, but why did CCP change the omnis mechanics?

I guess i have to store my rattlesnake, along with my tengu (dusting for months now) back to my ship bay. Two ships that i really like turn to crap.

I guess the Mach is next in line huh?

Good job CCP on rebalancing the game...high five...fist bump...two thumbs up to you guys! Keep up the good work. Way to go buddy! You guys are the best!

Nerf everything to the ground. Until everything is balance. EVE would be a great game then. clap! clap! clap!




100mn tengu's were really dumb

rlml cerbs were really really dumb

The rattle snake was and is absolutely fine.. The omni mechanics have been change but the rattler hasn't been made worse through it at all. (Not noticably anyhow)

Stop being bad (Trademarked.)


I can't help it if I'm bad. Blink


So bad.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2014-02-02 20:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Garnoo
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
or overheat the dam thing and get used to carrying paste.
and its not a nerf.

How is 18% for one attribute and 36% for another while requiring paste and 2 slots better than 25% for both from a single slot that required neither cap nor paste?


just go for heavy drones... Roll

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#37 - 2014-02-03 05:19:21 UTC
Gefen Orion wrote:



Read and comprehension done.

Still posting in a 'wah why do I have to adapt CCP' thread.

You already admitted you are adapting so this thread is just a whine.


And you sound stupid because you keep on repeating yourself. Lol[/quote]

And you resorting to insults proves you are. P

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Canthan Rogue
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-02-03 06:16:14 UTC
The rattlesnake's missile velocity bonus sucks. It needs to be changed to an explosion radius/ROF/drone range/tracking bonus to be brought on par with the other pirate battleships.
ashley Eoner
#39 - 2014-02-03 07:48:33 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
You people are amazing.

All they did was make the omnis like other scriptable weapons boosting items, such a tracking computers, because omnis (the drone version of a tracking computer) gave twice the bonuses of a TC. It has been balanced as it should.

Now we just need a missile damage application item for midslots, since none exists yet.
Yeah cause drones have implants just like turrets and a low slot passive module that increases tracking/range just like turrets too...


I'm almost more annoyed by the federation omnis being crap. A result of lazy copy paste on CCP's part.


EDIT : HAHAHAHAHA at heavy drones in pve.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#40 - 2014-02-03 10:59:27 UTC
Why would you get a rattler for pve anyhow?

Its completely overtanked for 99% of the pve out there... Pve is generally easy as balls, you don't really need a tank, you need dps to run it as fast as you can.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish