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Dev blog: SoE battleship & UI fine-tune

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Diaxis Blema
Zero Fracks Given
#21 - 2014-01-27 22:00:23 UTC
When are we going to see a logistic battleship for shields? Or is that something that y'all already have in the cooker? Would be really nice to see one real soon.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#22 - 2014-01-27 22:10:40 UTC
LOVE you Game of drones if just after that you revamp the Drone UI and prevent CCP ( your boss ) to mess with drones more than now , i will be your slave to you all in the team .

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB

Jason Atavuli
Bootstrap Mining
V.e.G.A.
#23 - 2014-01-27 22:11:55 UTC
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Sylari Azure wrote:
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Oh boy! An exploration ship that is slow and unable to travel through low/null sec in relative safety... Just what I've always wanted! Straight

You guys are dumb for not giving the Nestor a covert cloak or a jump drive. Fact!


I won't use the term 'fact' but I will say that it's highly likely that you are a moron who rationalizes before using logic.

Case? This post. Please repost with some form of statement in which you are not a raving lunatic, thank you.


Or maybe the moron is the one who fail to see the irony of someone stating that there personal opinion is a fact...

That said, I think the majority of player would agree that a exploration ship without a cloak wasn't what we needed. A cloaky logistics ship on the other hand, is something that would be useful to many players.


Or maybe the Astero and Stratios are the relatively safe null exploration ships...

And maybe the Nestor is the nullbear ratting ship which can field 5 sentries, poke at rats with a laser to assign aggro, and rep armor on a few alts in dommies, and maybe that 1 other Alt in an Eos (who's boosting rep rate and repper cap usage). All while being able to warp out faster than a Thanatos if a dropper enters system, and do a ghost site without caring if the site goes boom.

Perhaps the probe bonus is there because it's an SOE ship, kinda like gallente ships that mostly have some kind of armor and drone bonus, and yet they don't all have the +7.5% to drone tracking the Dommie has.

All that aside, who the hell goes ninja exploring in a battleship anyway? BLOPS bro, if you really feel safer in a cloaky lump it's not that much skilling, and besides you really should have all the core skills to 5 and all the t1 sub cap hulls and weapons to 5 already or you're doing it wrong ;)

Oh and Etana . . . or fit a cloak to a scimi / guardian. Yes I know it nerfs the scan res, but if you don't like that, get an Etana.

Complaining about what isn't won't help, work with what you've got bro. That's half the fun of EVE
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Celia Therone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-01-27 22:33:45 UTC
Are the bpc details of the Nestor (like materials needed to construct one) on the web anywhere?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#25 - 2014-01-27 22:41:59 UTC
Celia Therone wrote:
Are the bpc details of the Nestor (like materials needed to construct one) on the web anywhere?


https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/9/33472/0/5/0/5

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#26 - 2014-01-27 22:46:54 UTC
How long until the PLEX interface is incorporated into the Character Sheet under "Pilot's Licence"? Lol
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2014-01-27 23:14:57 UTC
"... or activate 30 days of passive skill gain ... "

I don't use plex, so is this a new wording? Is there another type of skill gain I do not know? The wording suggests an active skill gain method. Not suggesting active skill training is being added, just that it's odd wording.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-01-28 00:19:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
Jason Atavuli wrote:

Or maybe the Astero and Stratios are the relatively safe null exploration ships...

And maybe the Nestor is the nullbear ratting ship which can field 5 sentries, poke at rats with a laser to assign aggro, and rep armor on a few alts in dommies, and maybe that 1 other Alt in an Eos (who's boosting rep rate and repper cap usage). All while being able to warp out faster than a Thanatos if a dropper enters system, and do a ghost site without caring if the site goes boom.

Perhaps the probe bonus is there because it's an SOE ship, kinda like gallente ships that mostly have some kind of armor and drone bonus, and yet they don't all have the +7.5% to drone tracking the Dommie has.

All that aside, who the hell goes ninja exploring in a battleship anyway? BLOPS bro, if you really feel safer in a cloaky lump it's not that much skilling, and besides you really should have all the core skills to 5 and all the t1 sub cap hulls and weapons to 5 already or you're doing it wrong ;)

Oh and Etana . . . or fit a cloak to a scimi / guardian. Yes I know it nerfs the scan res, but if you don't like that, get an Etana.

Complaining about what isn't won't help, work with what you've got bro. That's half the fun of EVE


Nah sorry, I'm not convinced. With the amount of interceptors flying around these days, the only place a non covert cloak BS class ship could explore is in high sec.

If you are right and this is intended for a stationary null bear, the Nestor will cost as much as a carrier but it can't do anything solo, so only a fool would buy this. Besides, nullbear activities don't warrant the creation of a new faction BS.

Suggesting people buy a ultra rare alliance tournament ship to fill the role of a cloaky logi is a bit unreasonable, don't you think? And incase you didn't know, scimi and guardians can't use a covert cloak. Neither can the Blackops but what is does have is a jump drive, which is vital for the ship.

So yeah, you may disagree but I think that this ship brings nothing worthwhile to the game as it is.

For PVP: it's a bad dominix with RR bonuses
For PVE: it's no better than any other combat BS
For exploration: it's unfit for purpose
Coras Aldeland
K32 Industries
#29 - 2014-01-28 02:59:22 UTC
How about killing the background noise in the ISIS screen? Is there a setting I missed?

BTW, good job on ISIS - it is very nice.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#30 - 2014-01-28 03:41:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
The new reworked tutorial is great. It needs to have its own thread though.

Green line does not scale correctly at 90% screen resolution.

Tutorial 17 step 3 does not mention that if you use the stand alone Training Queue you must apply the skill before it is added to the queue. Apply button could be changed to "Add to Queue." for consistency purposes.

Issue with the switch over to career agents new tutorial never gives the player a civilian mining laser even though it says it will.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#31 - 2014-01-28 03:44:25 UTC
Jason Atavuli wrote:
… and do a ghost site without caring if the site goes boom.



All that aside, who the hell goes ninja exploring in a battleship anyway?


Did you answer your own question before you asked it?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#32 - 2014-01-28 04:11:53 UTC
Yea, as has been said a thousand times at least in the other thread, Nestor is in a terrible place, and serves no actual purpose, it has gimmicks that won't be used, unlike all the other Pirate BS that see significant use.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-01-28 08:31:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
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Cryo Kool
Tax Holiday
#34 - 2014-01-28 12:18:12 UTC
Reinforced Metal Scrap wrote:
The Nestor really needs a shuttle bay to match its model Straight .

I concur. Nestor needs a ship maintenance array large enough for a shuttle to match it's model.
Allaera
Kalmincon
#35 - 2014-01-28 13:45:12 UTC
Sylari Azure wrote:
Awesome, nice increase on the Armor Repairer range!! This is what the people's wanted! Shocked ty! excited!


What range increase? If you are talking about the Nestor's bonus (as I assume you are) I'd love to know where the hell you got that idea from as the Devs didn't change a damn thing on that ill-conceived lump since CCP Rise announced it back in early December!!

CCP Rise's announcement

Patchnotes (scroll down a tad)


Allaera
Kalmincon
#36 - 2014-01-28 13:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Allaera
Jason Atavuli wrote:


Oh and Etana . . . or fit a cloak to a scimi / guardian. Yes I know it nerfs the scan res, but if you don't like that, get an Etana.



Exactly because there a metric crap ton of Etanas (or is it Etanii? Whatever...) on the market right now........wait, you were actually serious?! Shocked

Jason Atavuli wrote:


Complaining about what isn't won't help, work with what you've got bro. That's half the fun of EVE



Why the hell not? It works for Goons Twisted
Cypher Decypher
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2014-01-28 14:40:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Cypher Decypher
Allaera wrote:
Sylari Azure wrote:
Awesome, nice increase on the Armor Repairer range!! This is what the people's wanted! Shocked ty! excited!


What range increase? If you are talking about the Nestor's bonus (as I assume you are) I'd love to know where the hell you got that idea from as the Devs didn't change a damn thing on that ill-conceived lump since CCP Rise announced it back in early December!!

CCP Rise's announcement

Patchnotes (scroll down a tad)





100% bonus to remote armor repairer range

I think he's referring to the stock increase of 100%, rather than a further increase on that..

Either way this boat will be nothing but a Collectors' Item.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#38 - 2014-01-28 14:48:11 UTC
Messtor.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Celia Therone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-01-28 22:45:15 UTC
Allaera wrote:
Sylari Azure wrote:
Awesome, nice increase on the Armor Repairer range!! This is what the people's wanted! Shocked ty! excited!


What range increase? If you are talking about the Nestor's bonus (as I assume you are) I'd love to know where the hell you got that idea from as the Devs didn't change a damn thing on that ill-conceived lump since CCP Rise announced it back in early December!!

CCP Rise's announcement

Patchnotes (scroll down a tad)

When Rise originally posted the Nestor didn't have the +100% remote repair range, the original post got edited to add that bonus due to feedback.

You can see where someone quoted Rise's original post, without the range bonus, here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3958158#post3958158

Here's Rise's post about them adding the repair range bonus: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3966636#post3966636

Rise also increased the warp speed to 2.5AU/sec from 2.0 AU/sec.

(I'm not saying that these changes made the Nestor into a desirable ship, but they were made.)
Aramis Rosicrux
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris
#40 - 2014-01-29 03:52:53 UTC
I love the look of the Nestor, but I would not be caught dead in one.


This ship is a gift to the big alliances.


Small fleets will not be able to protect it. But you put six of these and a few dozen damage BS'es on the field and you become untouchable.

In fleet warefare, this is going to be a trump card.


For solers, the Asteros and Stratios are credible options, but you know, every PvPer in Eve wants to kill one.


Aramis Rosicrux



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