Missions & Complexes

A simple question. When you scan down a mission runner and you warp to their site are your intentions to help him finish the site and collect bounties?

Since we know your answer already we can assume you should be suspect as soon as you hit warp. If your intentions are honourable then you have the minute or so in warp to plea you case to the mission runner. And as it has been my experience the Mission runners in EVE are vastly more trustworthy than the pirates I would say your chances are considerably better than a freight pilot jumping into Jita.

I would say that depends on the situation, if you are sitting in a marauder 50km off the beacon and 15 destroyers jump in, it would be a huge advantage being able to open fire the second they enter the grid.

There are situations where your only option is to fight.

incorrect, pirates are criminals and i am an honest capsuleer trying to make some money off bounties

i am entitled to whatever i can take from the site as it is a public site, as all sites in eve online are

they are public which is why everyone can go inside.

missions do not entitle you to anything. they simply give you the location of a freshly-spawned site and an objective to complete.

everything in there is for the taking.

anyone in highsec is choosing to play by a certain set of restrictions on their behavior. if you don't like those restrictions, i suggest doing missions in lowsec.

the mission runner owns nothing, they simply triggered the spawn of the site and have the bookmark

anyone else who enters the site is not taking anything

and if they wanted to go suspect, they'd commit a suspect act

the rules affect everyone exactly the same way

the mission runner is already as prepared as anyone else who enters, as the person who enters is playing by exactly the same set of rules as the mission runner.

everyone can go into the site, therefore it's public. if mission items were not free for all, noone would be able to pick them up.

you're asking that someone else be forced to play to different rules as you. we call that 'cheating' anywhere else.

the case of pve ships needing to have completely different setups than pvp ships is an important issue, but the solution is not to special-case crimewatch for mission sites. making the rules different for one person is not fair, and attempting to resolve an imbalance by creating another one is ridiculous

at no point is the mission runner playing by different rules than anyone else in the mission. each pilot can only engage by the other pilot's choice. each pilot has access to the same set of tools.

and regarding suicide ganking profits, some mission runners should use a little thought and stop fitting stupid **** to their spaceships. the rest of us will be over here not getting shot.

no. neither party may aggress until the other flags themselves. items can be taken by anyone (being public), and if it's taken before you can get to it, you can buy it off the other guy, you can wait until downtime or you can get a new mission. anyone can shoot anyone's mtu without concord interfering (this was the design intention of the module, after all) and drones set to aggressive follow a strict set of rules that some people can't be bothered learning. i've had tons of people in my missions, in a hub, and i haven't lost a mission ship since my first month in the game. by learning how to play.

if you want to play under a less strict set of rules, mission in lowsec. there, you can shoot whenever you like.

Risk vs Reward. this is one of the driving aspects behind eve and is what sets it apart from other games. without this central game mechanic you would be better off playing wow where if you die you lose next to nothing and as such there is no risk so the reward, no matter how great is unfulfilling: if anyone can have somthing then is the reward really all that great?

you need to apply this to every part of eve to understand eve. I used to mission a lot, even with bling fit ships but by redusing my risk I was never evrer ganked. I've never seen anyone warp into my mission pocket except when I moved to a more populated hub. I accepted that by running missions in a less popular hub id be making less isk (reward) but id also be flying under less danger of losing my ship (risk).

this did allow me to run shinier ships so I made more isk (reward) but there was alway the chance I got unlucky and a random scan would mark me as a target (risk)

now I run in whs. this is far greater risk (30bill can be lost in an instant with little way to reduce risk and thats running cheap setup) but the rewards are greater as well and I accept this.

by flying for soe or other popular hubs you greatly increase your reward but also your risk. by using an mtu you greatly increase you reward but also your risk. you can reduce/negate that risk by doing various things like running missions differently (blitzing), using less bling or not using a drone boat or not running afk or not setting drones to aggressive or running off grid boosters, etc.

you as mission runner made a choice to increase your profit at the expense of your own safety and are now crying to ccp how unfair it is. can I also cry to ccp that I face risk as well?

tldr; go back to wow, eve is a game for men and women who have brains and/or balls and you girls have neither.

Looks like all the morons who were trying to say this drone aggro mechanic was an intended feature just got their intellgence status confirmed by CCP.

Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target