Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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EVE is a sandbox, yes... but not that kind of sandbox.

Things left in space decay over time for a reason, after all. Space can get cluttered up even with perfectly innocuous inert structures, which just sit there and do nothing. You really don't want to add to the problem with structures that automatically attempt to talk to all structures within range every tick (which means 'all structures on grid' of course, since 'in range' means 'do a range calculation between you and everything'). You really especially don't want to make it a thing where these things will continue interacting and iterating on their own internal logics even when the system is empty.

In other words; no redstone, no logic. For reasons of lag, they must never exist.

Or you could just pay attention to your screen, and you will see when the "ball" passes the "goal". This is an over-complicated idea that solves something which isn't really a problem.

I am all for ideas about features which are tools that have specific functions and not specific uses, such as old probes (scan, generate a warpable point on the map which coordinates are calculated based on probed object's coordinates factored with scan deviation) which were a tool and could be used for anything you could imagine, compared to new probes (scan until deviation 0, create a warpable point on the map which corresponds to the location of the probed object in some pre-defined fashion) which are just a means to finding wormholes and exploration sites, and have no function or purpose beyond doing exactly what they are supposed to do.

But this one in particular doesn't seem very well thought-through, and you need to at least do a little more elaboration on how these things would function, in terms of the game world, the interface, etc..

Minecraft is a terribly badly optimized game, and suffers from myriad technical issues. It's simply a very very bad example of any aspect of game design beyond demonstrating the Skinner box effect.

I'm not trying to say anything bad about Minecraft as itself, or about playing the game, or whatever. I'm simply saying that using Minecraft as an example in this context is not entirely appropriate. If you designed anything in EVE the way it is designed in Minecraft, I think it would at best create huge amounts of lag.

Or to put it in terms of your idea: What happens when someone programs over 8000 of these "redstone" containers to blink every time another container blinks, and then dumps them on a grid? Perhaps it would create a big chain reaction that would look a lot like a fleet fight - lots of entities that all have to repeatedly poll each other for input, send thousands of "blink" events to every client on the grid, and so on. So I guess you could just fly around and crash nodes willy-nilly?

Those are things I think you must consider about your idea. Things like; what does the features do? Does it solve some kind of problem? What does it look like in-game? How does it affect the hardware and software?

Why don't you? There's nothing stopping you.

Granted, it's a little more difficult these days to make it so that a group of people can shoot / e-war each other, what with all the soft padding CCP is adding to every sharp corner of the game rules, but you can still play amongst corp mates, or do it in nullsec, or simply agree to take the risk of going mass suspect-flagged (by all stealing from a container) in a safespot in high sec for the duration of the match.

I believe the people who invented Can-ball, or Jetcan Football, lived in nullsec already, so that's where they would meet up to play. I remember reading about it and that they even managed to organise an inter-alliance match at some point.