EVE General Discussion

FTFY

No you guys aren't.

But most players are.

As Mr FC above pointed out, I shouldn't have been so sweeping in my statement.

Would people build these stargates to new space if they took, for example, 4 aeons and an avatar as components and they removed the ability to build new supercaps at the same time? I'm imagining the required ships flying somewhere in space, docking with some pre-built superstructure, and physically becoming the gate.

What would the economic benefits have to be to build a stargate to get enough people OUT of the supers? and what would CCP have to do to compensate the effectively unusable skill points in the super pilot? Could supercap proliferation be put into reverse like this? Any interest or terri-bad idea?

Is it just me being sleep deprived and stupid or is this actually as awesome as I think it is?

This is a pretty interesting idea for reducing supercapital numbers. However, if this new space ends up being too similar to currently available areas of space, then I don't think you'll encounter a lot of people who are willing to commit to such a goal with a trade-off like that.

Success for this vision is entirely dependent on CCP's ability to deliver on it. If they fail this, the situation has potential to harm EVE as much as Incarna did. Unlike walking in stations, however, development this time around seems to be sensibly focused.

The idea has merit, the implementation however seems questionable, considering the hamsters are seriously overworked as it is...

I'm going off the idea - not because I don't like it, but because its got some fundamental flaws...

Whenever any imagined stargate-building comes out, no matter how its achieved - then I would **imagine** it costing some multiple of a titan hull - i.e. x-hundreds of billions to build ( x > 1 !) So I don't think that parking a titan and moms itself is too expensive. (You'd also get your sell your mods - which in the case of my Nyx are worth more than the ship itself.)

But as mom/super numbers reduce you are making the existing supers (that you don't own - and your alliance/bloc doesn't control) more powerful, more useful, more valuable assets. Probably/possibly for your current and future enemies. This is what needs compensation, and I'm not sure that that can be worked out - because the the compensation would need to scale at a rate of 1 over the number of supers left in game.

The first guys to sacrifice their supers effectively pay the least (as their supers are worth the least) in order to keep getting people to do it, there would have to be some strategic advantage given to the builders. But by EVEs nature - the first people to do it, will make the most, and people that follow, will make less and less. That's not a golden rule I know, but its the general trend.

So these two things are going in opposite directions - the perceived cost increases as more stargates are built, and the benefits very likely reduce. If some clever soul can think of a way to reverse one or other of those trends then the idea has merits, else - not-so-much.

Picking up on the Titan to build a stargate thing - yes remaining supers become a bigger issue - you could always build in some sort of obsolescence so that they gradually start to become....rubbish, maybe their modules don't switch on regularly or not to full effect, drones miss targets etc....then there will be a clamor to use or lose them or they become useless....maybe even build in a reduction of the reprocessing value as well over time so that there is an incentive to get rid of them

Of course, idiots like me who have spent weeks training up the skills will be apoplectic at the loss of our beloved "I Win" ships ( and skillpoints no longer used)

Prefer to see any player built/owned jumpgate have the same issues and needs as POS towers... they need fuel and they can be killed.

Would prefer the POS revamp came before this new space thing but, whatever it could be something cool.