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Jaschar Verge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-24 18:07:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaschar Verge
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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2014-01-24 18:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Since he's obviously targeting you, its a good thing you've posted this thread so he can see he's gotten nice and under your skin.

If its just a corp with you, transfer it to a same-account alt and sit in an npc corp a few days. he'll quit paying the wardec eventually. or maybe he'll keep paying it while going about his own business. Eventually you can move back into your own corporation and he either won't notice, or won't follow you if you change your area of operations.

Keep him watchlisted, and get a few locator agents to check up on his whereabouts on occasion.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#3 - 2014-01-24 18:11:17 UTC
My crystal ball predicts that this thread will in well.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#4 - 2014-01-24 18:11:34 UTC
You know ranting isn't allowed right? This will just get you Wardec'd even more.

Or maybe thats secretly what you want and its a stealth 'please wardec me' thread? Shocked

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#5 - 2014-01-24 18:11:50 UTC
I dont understand

1) What are you doing to get decced so often (dont say nothing, there is always a reason)?

2) Are you being camped in by one guy?

3) Have you tried not docking?

4) Have you built any alts yet?

5) What do you do for an eve-living?

6) You say " I respect the idea of killing any player, any time" but you have an issue with a mechanism designed to facilititate this. how do you rationalise that oxymoron?

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-01-24 18:13:29 UTC
IB4L

Also, if you don't like wardecs, perhaps you should just stay in an NPC corp? Not rush out and make your own?

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Julius Rigel
#7 - 2014-01-24 18:16:14 UTC
This type of thread really ought to go in the Crime & Punishment section.
Jaschar Verge wrote:
Started a new corporation.
I found your problem. You really shouldn't start a corporation as a one-month old beginner.

You NEED to play the game for a while to learn the skills required to be a CEO. One of those skills is war protocol. You need to learn how to protect your corporation from griefers before you become a CEO.

There are many good corporations out there specifically geared toward beginners, teaching you leadership skills, how to command fleets, what to do when you enter war, and so on. I sincerely suggest you look into joining one and training with them in combat so you can learn those vital skills.

Do YOU like to undock?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#8 - 2014-01-24 18:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jaschar Verge wrote:
the part where you never get to catch up with someone a year ahead of you...
That's a common misconception, all skills have a cap of 5. An older player may have eleventy billion more SP than you, but only a small number of those skills apply to the ship he's flying, the rest are worthless with regards to that ship. All the extra SP gives him is choice, and an expensive clone.

By starting a corp you basically stated to the world that you're ready to play with the big boys, obviously you're not. You have a couple of choices
  • You and your corp can fight the wardeccer, 27 of you should be able to kill a single player, zerg rush him in cheap frigates and destroyers.
  • You can continue ranting on the forums and attract more wardecs. I can see a visit from the End Boss of Highsec, Cannibal Kane (and his magnificent hair), in your very near future, if you haven't already.
  • You can drop back to an NPC corp where you'll be immune to wardecs.


In your case I suggest the 3rd option until you're ready to take the responsibilities, which includes being able to lead your corpmates against a wardeccing corp, and penalties that come with starting a corp, such as wardecs.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-01-24 18:28:13 UTC
Jaschar Verge wrote:

If this isn't fixed, and this isn't some threat, it's just a matter of fact, I won't be able to think of a reason to keep my subscription going.


here's my suggestion

sub 10 accounts
get IsBoxer
seek revenge with noobships

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Jaschar Verge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-24 18:38:50 UTC
1: It's not the same guy, targeting me. I'm not being targeted specifically.

2: I left my old corp *because* of wardecs. Yes, I thought that it was on that corp. I realize now the error of my ways.

3: I could change corporations, but the same would happen to them, no?

I was just blowin' off steam. I just needed to not be in corpchat in the mood I was in. It's also not this guy that's gettin' me like this. It's the system. I left a corp because of this problem and here it is again.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-01-24 18:40:50 UTC
There are no wardecs in nullsec. Or wormholes.
Notorious Fellon
#12 - 2014-01-24 18:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Notorious Fellon
Jaschar Verge wrote:
1: It's not the same guy, targeting me. I'm not being targeted specifically.

2: I left my old corp *because* of wardecs. Yes, I thought that it was on that corp. I realize now the error of my ways.

3: I could change corporations, but the same would happen to them, no?

I was just blowin' off steam. I just needed to not be in corpchat in the mood I was in. It's also not this guy that's gettin' me like this. It's the system. I left a corp because of this problem and here it is again.


Leave your corp. You will fall to the NPC corp. NPC corps cannot be wardec'd. Spend a few months skilling up and learning more. Then decide if you would like to start a corp again. But wait until you have a few people to join you. Then you wont be trying to fend off wardec griefers by yourself.

If 3 pilots in your corp get together and hunt down the solo wardec griefer, he wont bother you again. Or maybe he will, and all four of you will have a great time blowing up each other's ships. Either way, you win.

In EVE, the best ship to fly is a FriendShip.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-01-24 18:52:09 UTC
Jaschar Verge wrote:
Started a new corporation.


I quoted the relevant part of your post, which is what you did wrong.

Why do you feel entitled to start a corp? Do you know anything about how to run a corp? Do you have a plan in place for recruitment and creating content for your members?

It's obvious you aren't prepared to run a corporation, so why would you?

Do you think this is wow and you can just auto-invite every player in the starting zone to make gold in your guild bank?

Honestly, HTFU or GTFO. New players and those with zero knowledge of the game shouldn't start corporations. Plain and simple. Obviously there are exceptions but it's a 'rule' for a reason.

Would you expect to succeed with a real life business without a business plan or any knowledge of the market you are entering into? What exactly made you think you'd be a good corp leader?

If you can't handle a single guy wardeccing you, corp leadership is not for you. End of story.

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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#14 - 2014-01-24 18:53:02 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:
Jaschar Verge wrote:
1: It's not the same guy, targeting me. I'm not being targeted specifically.

2: I left my old corp *because* of wardecs. Yes, I thought that it was on that corp. I realize now the error of my ways.

3: I could change corporations, but the same would happen to them, no?

I was just blowin' off steam. I just needed to not be in corpchat in the mood I was in. It's also not this guy that's gettin' me like this. It's the system. I left a corp because of this problem and here it is again.


Leave your corp. You will fall to the NPC corp. NPC corps cannot be wardec'd. Spend a few months skilling up and learning more. Then decide if you would like to start a corp again. But wait until you have a few people to join you. Then you wont be trying to fend off wardec griefers by yourself.

If 3 pilots in your corp get together and hunt down the solo wardec griefer, he wont bother you again. Or maybe he will, and all four of you will have a great time blowing up each other's ships. Either way, you win.

In EVE, the best ship to fly is a FriendShip.


This

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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#15 - 2014-01-24 18:59:31 UTC
Looking at your corp history, you belonged to small "noob friendly" and/or indy corps, which are always a target of for lulz wardecs and always will be, so you are probably correct that you are not being targeted...or I should say *were* correct, because now that you cried about it on the forums, that will likely change.

Your current new corp has 27 members already? TBH, I'd be more worried about AWOXers than wardecs lol. If 27 of you can't leave space dock because of a one man corp wardec, you should probably fold your corp and join an established one, or drop to a NPC corp, where you just have to worry about suicide ganks.
Notorious Fellon
#16 - 2014-01-24 19:02:46 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Jaschar Verge wrote:
Started a new corporation.


I quoted the relevant part of your post, which is what you did wrong.

Why do you feel entitled to start a corp? Do you know anything about how to run a corp? Do you have a plan in place for recruitment and creating content for your members?

It's obvious you aren't prepared to run a corporation, so why would you?

Do you think this is wow and you can just auto-invite every player in the starting zone to make gold in your guild bank?

Honestly, HTFU or GTFO. New players and those with zero knowledge of the game shouldn't start corporations. Plain and simple. Obviously there are exceptions but it's a 'rule' for a reason.

Would you expect to succeed with a real life business without a business plan or any knowledge of the market you are entering into? What exactly made you think you'd be a good corp leader?

If you can't handle a single guy wardeccing you, corp leadership is not for you. End of story.



Why so much e-peen and vitriol to a newer player? What is the point of acting this way? Is it helping EVE as a whole to ensure long-term player retention? No, it is not.

The game does ALMOST NOTHING to help new players in this area. It does ALMOST NOTHING to help guide the new player after the intro tutorial missions. The game does not tell the new player that it is best *NOT* to create a corporation early on.

New players are dropped off into an empty void with a ton of options, most of which are basically traps set for leet e-peen stroking pvp-superstars who can prey on the unaware.

The EVE community needs to take some ownership on helping people enter the game and deal with the terrible lack of introduction. Maybe then we can get enough funding in CCP to fix bugs faster and maybe even develop more content.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#17 - 2014-01-24 19:08:30 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:
Why so much e-peen and vitriol to a newer player?


I'd say given the tone of the OP, this thread is extremely civil.
Billy Sastard
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-01-24 19:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Billy Sastard
I just resubbed after not playing for a few years and come to the forums and see this topic at the head of the list...

I am glad to see that the eve I love and know is still going strong.


Oh and to the OP and people saying the game is too hard on newbies... HTFU.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-01-24 19:13:23 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:

Why so much common sense and good advice to a insulated bucket of entitlement? What is the point of acting this way? Is it helping EVE as a whole to ensure long-term idiot retention? No, it is not.

The new players do ALMOST NOTHING to help themselves in this area. They do ALMOST NOTHING to research the game after the intro tutorial missions. The new players do not bother with a basic google search which would tell you that it is best *NOT* to create a corporation early on.

New players are dropped off into an empty void with a ton of options, most of which are traps that can be easily navigated with the barest modicum of common sense and google-fu.

EVE Newbies need to take some ownership on helping themselves enter the game and deal with the terrible lack of introduction. Maybe then we can get enough funding in CCP to fix bugs faster and maybe even develop more content.


I fixed your post for you.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#20 - 2014-01-24 19:16:42 UTC
War-Dec mechanic is not broken; there are incredibly easy solutions to these issues:
1. War dec'd? Ignore it and play skill que on-line.
2. Move to low or NPC null and do exploration/piracy for a bit. Most highsec war dec guys aren't willing to go the extra mile.
3. Drop corp to NPC corps, or if you are part of a larger newer player friendly corp they probably have anywhere from 1 to 10 alt corps that serve as holding corps during war decs. Griefer wants to dec 10 corps to get your corp? Great, leave them open with a PI alt and make more corps. This in my opinion is the best game because it ends up costing 200-500 million / week to the agressor if they keep going after little splinter corps that you keep essentially empty. War dec ends? Rejoin your main/alt corps and get on with business.
4. Get an orca or a medium tower and hang out in WH space. It is god damn hard to find war targets in W-space. It can be pretty easy to get evicted, but it's still good fun.
5. Yeah, NPC corps.
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