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The solution to HED-GP - destroy the null sec empires
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Macabre Combine
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-01-22 17:49:49 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Macabre Combine wrote:
one way to fix the mega alliance problem is to allow capital production in empire


that's just going to cause TIDI in high sec that's worse.


I don't see how that would happen, if capital production was allowed in empire it would remove the huge advantage super alliances have, and also give corporations a chance to amass a fleet large enough to challenge sovereignty, the way things are setup now you're forced to join one of the big zerg fleets.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#22 - 2014-01-22 17:53:04 UTC
Macabre Combine wrote:


I don't see how that would happen, if capital production was allowed in empire it would remove the huge advantage super alliances have


Yeah cos instantly 10,000 people working together would fall apart and the highsec denizens would start working together.

Thanks for helping propegate yet another thread full of half baked rubbish and pointless rants.

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-01-22 17:55:02 UTC
Macabre Combine wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Macabre Combine wrote:
one way to fix the mega alliance problem is to allow capital production in empire


that's just going to cause TIDI in high sec that's worse.


I don't see how that would happen, if capital production was allowed in empire it would remove the huge advantage super alliances have, and also give corporations a chance to amass a fleet large enough to challenge sovereignty, the way things are setup now you're forced to join one of the big zerg fleets.


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#24 - 2014-01-22 17:57:39 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.


Ok as you seem to be taking your idea seriously, lets look at it.

So, would the Nullgimps be allowed to fight CONCORD, or would they simply have their toys broken in front of them?

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#25 - 2014-01-22 18:00:53 UTC
because nothing says "we care about the sandbox" like screwing over tens of thousands of players with a ridiculous deus ex machina.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-01-22 18:01:01 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.


Ok as you seem to be taking your idea seriously, lets look at it.

So, would the Nullgimps be allowed to fight CONCORD, or would they simply have their toys broken in front of them?


oh they can try, providing they can fight against a titan for every pos in a system in a region.
Tebizla
#27 - 2014-01-22 18:05:27 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Stuff ...


The solution to prevent posts such as this being posted - Disable account.

Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-01-22 18:05:57 UTC
Oh goodie, this will cut literally every ball and chain holding us to nullsec so we can finally settle our differences with our enemies and terrorize the wretches of hisec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-01-22 18:06:50 UTC
In a "boot stamping on a human face - forever" fashion more than a "gank freighters in jita for a weekend" fashion

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-01-22 18:07:40 UTC
Server power couldn't take the fighting. Coalitions would join together to shoot concord and come to high sec to seek revenge. Or they would all hide in WH space and come back like it never happened. I mine, and if this happened I would lead attacks on high sec. Why just null though? Anyway, it's an imature unrealistic idea.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-01-22 18:08:47 UTC
Andski wrote:
In a "boot stamping on a human face - forever" fashion more than a "gank freighters in jita for a weekend" fashion


You would go grind SOV after about a month so you can hopefully save yourself from turning insane after all the tears tho. Mental health is serious buisness man.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-01-22 18:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Otichoda
Andski wrote:
In a "boot stamping on a human face - forever" fashion more than a "gank freighters in jita for a weekend" fashion


then we will fight the final battle and burn EVE to the ground forever in the fires of Jita 4 and unsubscribed accounts.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#33 - 2014-01-22 18:09:48 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.


Ok as you seem to be taking your idea seriously, lets look at it.

So, would the Nullgimps be allowed to fight CONCORD, or would they simply have their toys broken in front of them?


oh they can try, providing they can fight against a titan for every pos in a system in a region.


So, no, you would just want to break their toys without them having a chance to fight back.

What purpose would this serve?

And how rich do you have to be before CONCORD take all your stuff away from you?

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-01-22 18:11:13 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Andski wrote:
In a "boot stamping on a human face - forever" fashion more than a "gank freighters in jita for a weekend" fashion


then we will fight the final battle and burn EVE to the ground forever in the fires of Jita 4 and unsubscribed accounts.


The final "battle" would be a turkey shoot of horribly fit mission ships rather than a "battle"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-01-22 18:11:49 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.


Ok as you seem to be taking your idea seriously, lets look at it.

So, would the Nullgimps be allowed to fight CONCORD, or would they simply have their toys broken in front of them?


oh they can try, providing they can fight against a titan for every pos in a system in a region.


So, no, you would just want to break their toys without them having a chance to fight back.

What purpose would this serve?

And how rich do you have to be before CONCORD take all your stuff away from you?


ok then we'll randomise the destruction to play up the fact that CONCORD doesn't really care about the capsuleers. So its all pot luck that your POS is blown to bits.

Is that any fairer?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#36 - 2014-01-22 18:13:59 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:


yes but the existing empires are going to have the funds and cashflow to make the capitals and super capitals. By comparison a new alliance isn't going to have the reserves to lose many capitals before they have to break off. So that isn't going to change anything and anyway the big alliances and just titan bridge in a 1000 ships to smash the smaller force out of the way.


Ok as you seem to be taking your idea seriously, lets look at it.

So, would the Nullgimps be allowed to fight CONCORD, or would they simply have their toys broken in front of them?


oh they can try, providing they can fight against a titan for every pos in a system in a region.


So, no, you would just want to break their toys without them having a chance to fight back.

What purpose would this serve?

And how rich do you have to be before CONCORD take all your stuff away from you?


ok then we'll randomise the destruction to play up the fact that CONCORD doesn't really care about the capsuleers. So its all pot luck that your POS is blown to bits.

Is that any fairer?


How about we make CONCORD tankable, and give people the ability to declare war on them and the NPC corps? That would represent the narrative just as well.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-01-22 18:15:25 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


How about we make CONCORD tankable, and give people the ability to declare war on them and the NPC corps? That would represent the narrative just as well.


providing we separate the high sec CONCORD police with the null sec assault units.
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#38 - 2014-01-22 18:15:34 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
The current problem in 0.0 are because of supercapital and titan proliferation. When battleships sit in a blob they got bombed to hell and die. We need capital bombers to kill the capital blobs.

and their drones/fighterbombers


Somewhere in New Eden a baby Phoenix is being assembled and hopes this idea is taken seriously as its its only hope for being "well employed" in the future.

Every day I'm wafflin!
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#39 - 2014-01-22 18:16:22 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:


ok then we'll randomise the destruction to play up the fact that CONCORD doesn't really care about the capsuleers. So its all pot luck that your POS is blown to bits.

Is that any fairer?



CONCORD exist as a deterrant to further capsuleer murders in highsec after one has been reported. How do these (not-real people NPCs) NOT care about the capsuleers?

What I dont understand is why you feel that CONCORD should fight for you?

And what purpose (apart from encouraging unsubbing) would randomly destroying swathes of property in Null Sec actually serve?

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#40 - 2014-01-22 18:17:40 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


How about we make CONCORD tankable, and give people the ability to declare war on them and the NPC corps? That would represent the narrative just as well.


providing we separate the high sec CONCORD police with the null sec assault units.


No I meant as an alternative to your suggestions.

Let's say you could bring caps into highsec, but if you do it flags you and the now tankable CONCORD will attempt to attack you.

It's a facetious statement anyway, but just for the sake of discussion.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
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