Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The goal is not to make slowcat impossible, just a little more vulnerable. Thus if one slowcat were to die, every other slowcate would take significant damages, making another slowcat alpha easier by a nice margin. And so on. If you do not pay attention, quickly your slowcat fleet tank will slip out of your fingers. But yes it would still be hard to get the first kill. That's legitimate.


If you're talking about high-sec ganking, just make sure that ship explosions don't damage other ships the victim couldn't aggress without concord intervention. So ship explosion damage would only hit suspects, criminals, war targets, and limited engagement targets. And even without that, I don't see how it would be risk free. You would still have to loose expensive large ships (with big sig radius and big mass) to really do enough damage to kill something in one shot. That's not risk free and people would still prefer to gank shuttles in trashers.


Well you can already bomb so it couldn't be worse. And on the long run it would certainly generate less load than if two blobs were fighting with only a couple of ship deaths each our. At least here people would die more quickly.

Edit : Also there is a point where you cannot just cancel a mechanic because "it generates lag".
Lag is generated by pilots participating in a fight. Pilots are participating in ridiculously large numbers because blobbing is encouraged by current game mechanics. Because due to the amount of TiDi they can come, then afk 30 minuts, nobody will notice.

This guy is called the FC.

I updated the main post to sum up the ideas.

Because you loose the ship used to do the damage, ship that would necessarily have to be more and more expensive as the damage you want to make increase, because as I said it would be linked to your sig radius + mass, or ship class or whatever.

So yeah there is a pretty big difference, because every other case does not involve the unavoidable destruction of your ship. Thus the "risk free" comment is wrong.

As I said, the problem can be solved by making the explosion have an explosion radius (just like bombs) relative to the ship base sig radius before its death. Of course it would still make more damages than bombs on non-MWDing frigates, the damage should be tweaked so that blaster frigates could withstand one (T1) or two (T2) battleship explosions in a row if they put a bit of tank.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the current topic
And as much as I appreciate your idea, it does not solve the issue that you cannot remove titan bridging before doing something about how a pain it is to make blobs generate 10% tidi in unreinforced nodes just by traveling through systems. Take the last CCP live event as an illustration of that.

So if you want to do something about blobbing, its better to fix the incentive to blob instead of the ways to move your blob around. Most players stayed the whole day at HED, to you think it was fun to them to stay doing nothing at 10% TiDi ? Nonetheless they did it. WIthout titan bridging, moving around would be slower but still fesible. = No change, except that people have a game less fun, because they would still come for big fights even if it implies one hour of travel.

The removal of titan bridging would also start the massive decrease in subcap use for fleet battles, whereas slowcats would see an INCREASE in their use.

I did read everything you wrote, but obviously I could say that the opposite is not true. I won't, but I have to underline that I never said that anyone would be excluded from the AoE damage if inside the range. (Except non-sentry / non-capital drones, in my edited opening post but that's another story)

So indeed I would take damage too. But that's not risk free : You lost a ship just like if you had suicide-ganked it to CONCORD. Except that you didn't loose sec status. On the other hand, the damage done by the explosion does not equal the damage you could've done by using actual guns with this ship you suicided.

TLDR : You could damage neutrals, but the ratio isk/damage would be lower than a regular suicide gank (except when CONCORD is already on grid). A regular suicide gank + sec status clone tag buyback would cost about the same as loosing more isk to do the same damage without sec status hit.