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Downside of Mobile Tractor Units in missions
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Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2014-01-22 10:33:43 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
The target was dead, I don't know how I can make that any clearer.

The drones proceeded to shoot OTHER things aggressive either them or the assistee with no further action taken by EITHER pilot.


Do the pilot with drones assisting him set drones passive?
I know, he possibly do not have his own drones out at this moment, but I think, the setting: drones aggresive yes/no may still exist and possibly affect behavior of assisting drones.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-01-22 12:03:34 UTC
Pilot 2 was aggressive, that was my next thought to test, but haven't had the time to test and that's more than a bit dodgy if it does work like that!

I wonder what happens if that pilot has no drone bay thus no settings....
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-01-22 12:05:41 UTC
Petition.

Get answer from CCP.

Ignore everybody else.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Sar Hobonim
Freighter Building Indy 2012 corp
#44 - 2014-01-24 19:59:42 UTC
Thanks to everyone who took the time to post a comment on this thread.

CCP do act with honour - I've had the Golem back - less those modules which dropped.

I consider the matter closed. Big smile
hegheghegheg
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-01-25 11:35:50 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Has any CCP dev made a comment on this issue? If so can someone please post.



augie bendogie has replies from GM's on this issue, and it was clearly stated that is simply game mechanics.
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#46 - 2014-01-25 11:48:06 UTC
yes.. I had this EXACT thing happen to me before... and i petitioned GM.. I was told this is a game mechanic... and I was not eligible for ANY sort of reimbursement This was with GM spider.. who at the time had been a GM for 4 days.. so I asked for another GM to take a look at the matter and he supported the original decision.. I DEFINITELY do not think this is fair treatment when my loss was not reimbursed and yours was UNDER THE EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES!! Should I reopen this petition??
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#47 - 2014-01-26 01:45:03 UTC
Bump... what should I do???
Sar Hobonim
Freighter Building Indy 2012 corp
#48 - 2014-01-26 18:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Logibro
augie bendoggy wrote:
Bump... what should I do???



Ask CCP to look at the facts again. This is part of the e-mail that they sent to me.
[snip - please do not post GM correspondence - CCP Logibro]
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#49 - 2014-01-27 08:26:40 UTC
Thank you Sar Hobonim.

I have opened another ticket asking for a reassessment of the first ticket. Hopefully this will lead somewhere, or at the lease get the problem addressed.
Sar Hobonim
Freighter Building Indy 2012 corp
#50 - 2014-01-28 23:17:11 UTC
Patch Notes for Rubicon 1.1
28.01.2014 17:13

FIXES
Gameplay

Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target.
Abdul 'aleem
Sumiko Yoshida Corporation
#51 - 2014-01-29 02:32:09 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
The target was dead, I don't know how I can make that any clearer.

The drones proceeded to shoot OTHER things aggressive either them or the assistee with no further action taken by EITHER pilot.


Maybe it was a zombie ship? Big smile

One day CCP will get drone mechanics right.... Okay maybe not but it's a good dream Lol



hahaha yeah they are really trying but.... yeah lol

The ability for everyone and their allies to legally counter-gank mission invaders... yes please. Add a Suspect Flag for Mission Invasion

Click "like" in the original post to support it.
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#52 - 2014-02-05 01:11:10 UTC
Well I finally got a response to my ticket

"At the time that you filed the ticket in question, this was considered normal game mechanics. We have since changed the game mechanics so that this does not occur anymore. However, we are unable to offer reimbursement or compensation for game design changes.

If you have any other questions or problems, please let us know.

Best regards,
Senior GM Pyro
EVE Online Customer Support Team"

wow... i dont know what to say... oh well
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-02-05 01:21:49 UTC
augie bendoggy wrote:
Well I finally got a response to my ticket

"At the time that you filed the ticket in question, this was considered normal game mechanics. We have since changed the game mechanics so that this does not occur anymore. However, we are unable to offer reimbursement or compensation for game design changes.

If you have any other questions or problems, please let us know.

Best regards,
Senior GM Pyro
EVE Online Customer Support Team"

wow... i dont know what to say... oh well


I know some got their ships back but you probably got an unsympathetic GM...
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#54 - 2014-02-05 02:05:33 UTC
well there needs to be consistency among ALL GMs.... not just the ohh Im lucky I got the good one.. and btw... this is the 3rd GM to talk to me on this matter
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-02-05 02:10:09 UTC
augie bendoggy wrote:
well there needs to be consistency among ALL GMs.... not just the ohh Im lucky I got the good one.. and btw... this is the 3rd GM to talk to me on this matter


Ah maybe they got some official word not to replace losses. At least they patched this feature
augie bendoggy
Intergalactic Space Scorpions
#56 - 2014-02-05 02:22:54 UTC
maybe so... but i can assure you that it leaves a very sour taste in my mount to not be treated equally... btw.. i originally opened the ticket for this on 11/27/13
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-02-06 05:08:27 UTC
Sar Hobonim wrote:
When CCP brought in the mobile tractor unit I thought that it would help a great deal in missions.

However I have just experienced the downside.

Mission in 0.7 security system, Safety set to green. Drones set to aggressive. In mission.

In comes another player. Shoots my MTU which causes my drones to aggress him.

Suddenly PVE becomes PVP and I lose my Golem.

Corp member found this link http://themittani.com/features/mission-runners-proclaim-exploit

Has anyone else been hit with this?


Never dawned on ya to pull drones when a neut lands on grid.
Chill5
Thirsty Spacers
#58 - 2014-02-09 02:13:58 UTC
Dyphorus wrote:
Sar Hobonim wrote:
Drones set to aggressive. In mission.


You're mistake, your fault.

This is not new. The agro mechanics were made very clear before they were added to the game. You chose to use something you obviously didn't understand and paid the consequences.

Aside from the fact that this is a known mechanic, you can't glance sideways at the forums without seeing someone else that didn't bother to read up on something new they decided to use. It's everywhere, and you still didn't pay attention.

All the MTU does is encourage people to put their drones on passive and make them manually attack. This has the terrible side effect of making people have actually pay a small bit of attention to the game while running missions, I know it's almost too much to handle.



you smarmy, self righteous, know-it-all. It's jerks like you who ruin the forums.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2014-02-09 03:56:52 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Okay everyone does know that this has been patched right?....

I realize some people are still upset but it's over now. You can safely deploy your MTU without a care in the world Big smile


Edit: You're still open to any other form of PVP so a slight care in the world would be recommended
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