Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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It only takes mere seconds for missiles to reach your target, since your usually fighting within 40km or so, maybe a little longer at times. So either your missiles will reach there in time to actually harm the enemy or he'll die so quickly in fleet fights that you won't have time to even lock him, hence negating the effects of delayed damage.

Plus if your so worried about flighttime and your missiles not hitting in time, don't shoot the primary, because if that's the case, the primary's probably already got enough DPS on him so go shoot the secondary

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I normally don't respond to posts like this but really... The OP has no idea how heavily nerf'd missiles let alone Heavy Assault missiles are. Heavy assault missiles especially have been nerf'd to hell and back.

I used to be able to almost alpha frigs at 60km while doing like 4~5k m/s with Javelins in a sacrilege. Now I'd be surprised to get even 22km and manage to even hit the frig for more then 10 damage with Javelins. Let alone the fact that using javelins after the missile nerf effectively webs me. For example if I overheat my mwd I do about 1800 m/s. But, when I load Javelin missiles I can't get higher then 1.3k m/s (or 800 m/s normal). Also ships like the Dramiel can OUT RUN even heavy missiles. That means the missiles will never land ever.

Using any type of T2 missile makes ships so weak that it almost becomes a moot point in using them outside of large gangs. The days of the solo HAM drake and nano sac are long gone. What you are recommending is making nearly useless ships into paper weights.

I can use many different weapon types. The least likely weapon type I'd nerf would be missiles. The most likely currently is projectiles. They are overused. Everybody and their grandma uses projectiles on everything. I've even seen projectile Armageddons as stupid as that sounds. I would add some capacitor use on projectiles. Just to balance them without changing anything else. Just enough that a ship like the curse or other pvp ships have the chance to shut them off.

If anything missiles need a boost. If it was up to me I'd turn defenders into a turret type defensive weapon that attacks all enemy missiles on grid and remove all T2 missile penalties. The penalties currently placed on them are just stupid. Also maybe make missiles insta hit like guns.

Why would people thousands of years more advanced then us be using solid fuel rockets? I'd slap cheap warp drives on them that would cut off just before hitting the target and do a concussive AOE blast. A missile like that would make any fighter pilot these days **** their pants at the mere idea of it.

I think someone eft's way way way too much.
Just cuz on paper your doing that much damage doesnt mean you really do that much.
I fly both missile boats and projectile boats and they each have thier purpose. In a pvp setting the effective dmg output of projectiles (and probably most turrets) in my experience is far higher then anything i could do with missiles.
On the damage side of things you are really really off. The high missiles cant hit for full damage on anything but a battleship especially at long ranges because all you have to do is say hey look a missile is coming i have 20-30 seconds to warp off before it hits me.
In pve i will agree they are OP but honestly thats one of they few area they are good in. That and kill capitals that are almost always too slow and too big not to be hit for near full damage.

My HAMS do 1500 DPS at 110km - you are doing it wrong.

If the target is moving and is under the sig of the missile, it is impossible to do max damage against it.

Unlike turrets, where you only need to lower transversal.



The EFT damage figures for missiles are for max applied damage. They don't take sig and movement into account, as far as I know.

And what about light missiles? They can hit out to 60km, and get a dps close to small close range turrets (in EFT).

Why are the carebears wanting a nerf?

Never flown a Drake, 1.5 mil in missiles, NOT signed

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