Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With the goal of encouraging change in the universe and force engagements, or at least something interesting to happen out in 0.0, why not blow parts of it up on occasion? The best parts of eve are permanent, soul crushing loss...this increases that at the same time as forcing change.

On a somewhat rare occasion some sun could go nova. It would result in the complete destruction of the constellation.

All matter in these areas would be destroyed. I suppose the idea of having some systems just be burnt to a crisp but the structures being salvageable or something... There'd be no working stargate though.

There would be a period of time to react and bug out. The star would show signs of going nova before actually doing so. Ignore these signs and you lose...possibly everything.

Medical clones in a system that goes nova would be destroyed. There'd be no way to recover them. If you're going AFK a while you would contract your medical clone to a mobile facility as even hisec systems can go....naturally (more below). When the change came into effect all clones would be moved to such a facility...there'd be a one shot free move to anywhere. This is to keep people from coming back after years to find their main gone. Anyone that moves their clone though is SOL if they don't take care of it. There should be both NPC and PC mobile clone arrays. Would probably need to make it impossible for a PC one to be destroyed...at least in the first iteration because I imagine a lot of butt-hurt if one got blown up on its way out (I'd be cool with it myself).

The new, buildable stargates would be used to make WH exploration a pioneering effort to replace exploded systems. Systems could be sold to concord or kept lawless...not sure what you'd do for lowsec but that could be ironed out.

A new, very expensive ship/weapon pair would be created to explode an enemy's star. It would require some months of training and completely destroy the character. It would cause a chain reaction to begin in the star that would result in it going nova within some sufficient amount of time. It should be difficult to get the ship to its destination, requiring either massive force or great ingenuity. It should be possible, but far from easy, for a smaller alliance to destroy a coalition's home system if they're not vigilant.

This weapon would not be capable of firing in low/high. Lawful space only explodes naturally, and it would be a fairly rare event...but would in fact happen, which could be cool because it could split the universe and there'd need to be explorers and industrials to connect it again.

Sure, it needs a lot more work. I just thought of it today. It could be devastatingly destructive to the game if implemented naively, but could be a huge amount of fun if done right.

Because you didn't put your clone in a safe place. You have opportunity to do so in order to avoid that destruction.

Could make it easier for the lazy by making all NPC clone facilities capable of moving your clone if needed.

This seems like an awful idea. What part of this makes the game more fun? We're talking about playing a game right?

Decreased stagnation.

There's plenty of counters I described and I'm sure more can be thought of. You got bug-out time, facilities to contract out your clone moving... The reward of taking the risk not to make that contract would be the advantages of 0.0 and slight amount of saved isk per clone.

Perhaps the addition then of a clone backup.

Maybe the idea of complete material destruction is enough and the clone idea is too much. I like the idea of having to completely reset if you screw up really bad, but yeah...needs something for the people that get hit by busses and can't log in for months. I think anything short of that though could be avoidable by just flipping to a mobile clone before you leave on vacation.

I have to disagree with you there. Eve has a significant portion of it's player base that is either active, inactive, or reserve military. If the world's **** hits the fan, and they get called overnight, they can't be penalized like this idea suggests. A far more likely scenario than being hit by a bus. There are so many reasons someone may have to step out of the game on very short notice. I think if you tuned the idea back a bit to parts of solar systems being obliterated by solar flares or something, that would be a better balance. But putting in more 'NPC services' isn't what Eve is about, and we have to remember that though Eve is Real, I was there, etc, it's still a game.

I didn't say a thing about my clone. I lose those fairly frequently anyway.

I meant my assets. My ships, modules, blueprints, all of my stuff. Billions of ISK of stuff, that you want to take away from me with no way at all for me to save it.


Tell me this: What incentive is there for a player to return to the game if everything they owned before was just gone, with not even the slightest glimmer of possibility that it may be recovered?

But who likes the game enough to start again from scratch? I certainly wouldn't.



There's a difference between not being able to lose, and not having literally everything you've spent years working for taken away from you with absolutely no possibility whatsoever of preventing it.

And some people pay to enjoy being demeaned and beaten, while others enjoy beestings or doing their taxes. Masochism isn't for everyone.

This is sorta what i had anticipated the Incursions to do. But as it stands, Incursions don't "do" anything....they "invade" a system, and sit safe and sound in their little sites. What kind of invasion doesn't actually invade. "Ok, we're here, we have "control" of the system, we're going to leave now." Yeah, that sounds legit.