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Evren Toralen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-21 16:33:53 UTC
Lost a Dominix to gankers in about 5 minutes to a guy asking for help, then all his friends turn up and pew pew me Lol

The most annoying part is I have to fly to Jita and buy a new one Cry

Any tips on not being ganked or conversations to look out for that are certain ganks would be great.

Thanks in advance guys.
Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
#2 - 2014-01-21 16:53:17 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:
Any tips on not being ganked or conversations to look out for that are certain ganks would be great.
Thanks in advance guys.

Avoid LowSec. Reduction of chance to become ganked narrow 95%.

But there is NO chance to never become ganked. Because some people are just crazy.
They fly to a trade hub and switch on their smartbombs near the station...
So if you have the pity and just undocked there - BANG.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-01-21 16:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
So were you looking for fights or PVEing?

Either way the 1st rule should be obvious: Trust noone! - This is EvE dude.

If you're looking for fights, forget the Domi for now and start with Frigs. You'll lose tons at first til you get a feel for it and get to grips with the situational awareness you need, so keep it cheap for a while.

Also move your ships near to or just inside low in bulk. A low skilled hauler alt can carry 10 frigs with fitting per trip no prob.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Evren Toralen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-01-21 19:51:47 UTC
I'm not looking to PvP I want to do industry and the only way to do it is move here for the time slots :D I bought another one and I going to just try to be more careful i guess
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#5 - 2014-01-21 20:38:07 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:
I'm not looking to PvP I want to do industry and the only way to do it is move here for the time slots :D I bought another one and I going to just try to be more careful i guess


If you were just in lowsec for the slots, then what were you doing in a giant, fat target like a Dominix that you couldn't have accomplished in something much cheaper and much faster like a t1 frigate?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-01-21 20:39:23 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:
Lost a Dominix to gankers in about 5 minutes to a guy asking for help, then all his friends turn up and pew pew me Lol

The most annoying part is I have to fly to Jita and buy a new one Cry

Any tips on not being ganked or conversations to look out for that are certain ganks would be great.

Thanks in advance guys.


Yes:

a guy asking for help + Low-sec = It's a TRAP


Rule 1 of EVE - Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Rule 2 of EVE - Never trust anybody, period.

You broke rule 2.

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Evren Toralen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-01-21 21:02:30 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Evren Toralen wrote:
I'm not looking to PvP I want to do industry and the only way to do it is move here for the time slots :D I bought another one and I going to just try to be more careful i guess


If you were just in lowsec for the slots, then what were you doing in a giant, fat target like a Dominix that you couldn't have accomplished in something much cheaper and much faster like a t1 frigate?



I hit some rats while i was there :)
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-01-21 22:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Evren Toralen wrote:
I'm not looking to PvP I want to do industry and the only way to do it is move here for the time slots :D I bought another one and I going to just try to be more careful i guess


Wait.

You moved to low-sec for research slots and was doing that with a dominix?

May I ask why would you pick a ship that is such an easier target when there are many other ships that would be better tools for the situation?

EDIT:

Answered, derped by typing the reply but not hitting post.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-21 22:15:09 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Evren Toralen wrote:
I'm not looking to PvP I want to do industry and the only way to do it is move here for the time slots :D I bought another one and I going to just try to be more careful i guess


If you were just in lowsec for the slots, then what were you doing in a giant, fat target like a Dominix that you couldn't have accomplished in something much cheaper and much faster like a t1 frigate?



I hit some rats while i was there :)


Well, on your jump in, it warned you that you were entering "hostile" space.

Also, still, why the dominix when you could have brought something a bit smaller, more agile that should could have done the job.
As I can't think about much things that really NEED a dominix to do in low-sec.

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Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-01-21 23:45:09 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:


Any tips on not being ganked or conversations to look out for that are certain ganks would be great.

Another tip is to NEVER compare EvE to other MMO's.

WoW will hold your hand and give you a cookie every level up to 55. Which is why loads get bored and leave.

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.

- But you wont get bored.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2014-01-22 00:18:28 UTC
I also use lowsec slots for industry (research and copying).

When I move BPOs around, I do so in super fast aligning small ships. Interceptors, shuttles or assault frigates. (Cov-ops frigates are good too but I don't fly them).

I have only ever twice taken a battleship into lowsec. Once was for a fleet operation where we wanted a ship with a rack of heavy energy neutralizers; the other time was to experiment with using a Dominix as bait.

Winning fights in lowsec requires either overwhelming force (ie capital ships) or the ability to pick and choose your fights. The battleship provides neither.

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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#12 - 2014-01-22 03:33:17 UTC
Disclaimer: if your new, your a long ways from pulling this off. Think of it as things to look forward too.

Battleships can make great little high/low gate camp breakers. Big tank and heavy firepower. So not completely useless in low sec, but not an everyday boat out there.

Torp ravens are pretty handy here, as a lot of gate camps will figure you for a lost mission runner if they are not on the ball, until it's too late of course.

Just remember to insure it :) like most 1vMany situations, you will judge your performance on how many you brought down with you rather than if you got away :)
Yve Mountbatten
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-01-22 04:12:04 UTC
J'Poll wrote:


Rule 1 of EVE - Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Rule 2 of EVE - Never trust anybody, period.



Ovv Topik wrote:


Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.


Upon signing up to any new account, everyone should be encouraged to write these out 100 times.

Good words to live by!
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#14 - 2014-01-22 04:48:11 UTC
Mission-fit battleships are maybe the most sought after fantasy target in lowsec. Expensive lesson, but a common one :)
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-01-22 05:13:52 UTC
PvP fit cruisers and battle cruisers do wonderfully against low sec rats.

Another option is to convince some of your corpy's into moving out there with you.

Do both
Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#16 - 2014-01-22 05:24:01 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
[quote=Evren Toralen]

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.

- But you wont get bored.


Is that an original quote? :P

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.
Cloaky McWarpStab
#17 - 2014-01-22 05:53:28 UTC
Dkeh Weis wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
[quote=Evren Toralen]

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.

- But you wont get bored.


Is that an original quote? :P

Other MMOs give you a cookie. EVE smashes the cookie jar over your head, and laughs while you pick up the pieces. Or something.

One day I will have a blog. Be thankful that day isn't today.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#18 - 2014-01-22 05:55:36 UTC
OK, 1 year old character that takes domi for lowsec ratting and falls for "help me" convo trap? C'mon...

But on rare occasion that is not a troll:
- do not fleet with people you don't know
- do not help people you don't know
- do not trust people you don't know

Basically as a lowsec or pvp or general newbie you are not able to really help anybody so safe yourself a hassle and do not engage in anything you have no idea how it works and how you may get exploded as a result. And if anybody got into trouble in lowsec they either baiting or really messed up so frakk them, if genuine maybe they will learn if not why should you bother?

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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#19 - 2014-01-22 10:21:18 UTC
Evren Toralen wrote:
Any tips on not being ganked

Yeahhh... dump the giant neon billboard of a ship screaming "GANK ME - GANK ME - OH PLEEEEEASE GANK MEEEEE!!!" and train a tengu or some sort of cov-ops ship at home in low sec. Some cruiser or interceptor or somethin. You're driving an ice cream truck...

—Ω—
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-01-22 16:52:46 UTC
Dkeh Weis wrote:
Ovv Topik wrote:
[quote=Evren Toralen]

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.

- But you wont get bored.


Is that an original quote? :P

Absolutely. 100% original...














...just not mine.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

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