EVE General Discussion

Dear CCP,


Eve Online is а MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system. Not long ago there was a battle in HED-GP and lots of pilots had prepared their ships, looking forward to have much fun that day. That battle was supposed to be a culmination of a long war between the leading claim alliances. But instead of that they had to face terrible lags and infernal TD because of your inability to provide the stable functioning of your servers. Both sides – those who killed and those who lost ships there are highly disappointed with what was going on and what they have got. It was not a fair battle - everything that happened there had nothing to do with game principles and mechanics, and it has no logical explanation.
Moreover, those pilots who had lost expensive ships in lags due to the technical problems on your side haven’t received any reimbursement and it is a demonstration of your injustice and total negligence towards common players. You provided reimbursement in similar cases but now you provide us with nothing else but excuses, which is obviously not enough. We asked to fix lags, but you either did nothing or suggested some partial solution which didn’t fix the problem in general. We were patient and we used to put up with it, but it was the last straw that broke the camel’s back.
We are an independent group of people who cares for this game. A small group, but as soon as this message is posted on all eve-forums in all languages that we speak you will see how many people will be eager to join us. And we want you to start serious work on the technical problems you have now immediately. We want you to inform all the players about the changes and modifications that you are going to introduce in the nearest future to fix the lags and we need to know the time when it they will be embodied.
Besides we demand reimbursement for all the ships killed in that period of time as a result of the system failures. And we want you to provide pilots with new ships or isks if it happens again. If a ship was lost not because of a pilot’s mistake or poor pvp skill, but as a result of a technical problem on your side - it is your fault and you must recompense for it. We spent our time, isks and efforts in game to gain those ships in an honest and lawful way and no one will put up with the fact of losing them because of game defects.

If this message will have no effect on you and you ignore our words as you used to do before in 3 days we will do the following:

1) We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same.

2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to take part in wardecs and share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.

3) We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to write a number of surveys and to make a number of video clips in different languages showing what the liner side of the game – the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum all over the net, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers. We will let them understand that for you all the players are not more than a source of income and if they face problems you will do nothing but apologize. Bad fame spreads quickly, but it will take years to get rid of it. And most people prefer to trust real gamers not trailers. If they see what really happens in multi-player battles, the “chess-shooter” - you can be sure they will give up the idea of playing Eve.

The number of new players will fall, a number of old pilots will leave and it will affect you income and make you pay attention to these problems. We will wait for 3 days to see your first steps and your willingness to start a constructive dialogue with the players’ community. There were plenty of suggestions from other players in different topics, so we do not doubt you will find some good ideas among them. Show your respect to our needs and claims. If you start work and make up for the unjust losses we are not going to escalate the conflict. But if not, you will leave us no choice and we can’t see any other way of drawing your attention. We have little to lose now, because we have lost any interest to play this game.

Dear pilots

If you care for what is happening, if you are fed up with the lags, show your solidarity by giving likes to the topic and adding your comments and proposals. If you are ready to help us in any way tell us what you can do. Let the developers see that it is not a couple of whinning pilots but the opinion of the majority. They won’t be able to ignore it. We must do something to get what we deserve – fun and fair play.

Please, repost this text to your game forums and give a link to this topic.

Whats the TLDR here ?

Something about badgers ?

You're one of the most spineless and pathetic group of players I've ever seen in this game. What really happened was everyone who has ever even read about a fight of this nature knew what your leaders decided to do was one of the most stupid ******* things you could do in your situation. When their high risk gamble backfired and they were put in a situation where their rank and file members were looking for people to blame for the ******** move, they decided to try to save their own worthless skin by blaming everyone but themselves.

It is certainly understandable tactic from their perspective, since they have nothing to lose in their shifting of blame. It might even work, since it seems members of Solar fleet are mindless drones willing to swallow anything their leadership shovels down their throats, but don't expect others to show anything but mockery and contempt towards you.

you cyno in how many dreads into that mess KNOWING how many people on the grid and you expecting nothing to go wrong. Doctor who tunnel is going to happen.


IB4L o and can i have your stuff

The tears are threatening to raise the sea level by 3 feet, please contain yourselves....

TLDR: Halp, LAG! CCP FIX NAO! [addendum: OR I QUITS!!!!]

EDIT: That's what I got from the first tw sentences, I guessed that the rest is not that important or interesting and skipped it.

Can I have your stuff ?

That would be really helpful since I gambled some away :(
Please empty your pockets and share the wealth....

SOLAR tears are next best to goon tears.

Being a great alliance with strong leadership and pilots with overwhelming stamina, SF now is in very interesting situation. N3 coalition can disband this alliance just with one predictable failed fight \o/

P.S. CCP should hire good team to fix their core applications to fix lags. Otherwise nothing gonna change. So, can i have your stuff, guys? =)

So...wait....you're going to unsub all of your accounts, and then clog Jita/Amarr/whereverthefuck with your nonexistent ships on your unsubbed accounts?

Brilliant.