EVE New Citizens Q&A

Ask in corp chat and you will be directed to the noob fleet channel. As far as I remember it is just "RvB Noobfleet" and you can probably just join the channel. You should also join "R-V-B" which is the public channel. Other channels include their community channel (for just reds and blues) and their solo pvp channel. Ask and you will be given the names for these. RvB Also has their own forums (I believe you have to be approved before posting).

No, you don't have to use their overview pack, but you do need to set up yours to distinguish between Red Federation and third party war targets. I discuss that it my overview guide, if you need some help.

Things to do before joining RvB.

Rules and guidelines.

Thanks so Much.. yup i got my R-V-B channel open and i have noobfleet channel open.
it was the forum i'm trying to find.. but since I'm at my office at work i can't see the links they sent on eve mail..
i will definitely make sure i get the overview situation fixed.. i followed this one : http://i.imgur.com/vWldzUk.png

hi and fantastic advice.. thank you ! i will probably just speed tank my Atron then so i can still have tackle set up for it.
i have my core competency skills to a level that i can fit most if not all T2 support modules now.. I'm a lil behind on the T2 mad and afterburner tho.. =/

I will have to see if i an at least listen in to the talks on EvE voice so i can hear the comms.

biggest supirse i had sat night was that my little Atron actually managed to blow up a serpentis battle cruiser, 2 destroyers and one thorax before i blew up ! hehe.. but then i had to finish the mission o i stopped goofing off and bought a Rupture.
( i know tho in no way equates to a similar experience in PvP .. but it still felt good to know that I can .. for myself.. prove that bigger is not better in EvE )
funny tho that soon after I went to joinRvB and now i am gonna be keeping it light ,quick n ' nimble for a few months !


J'Poll =

Roger that .. I'll adjust my overview or even try to install the link /download they provided.

the three different overviews sound perfect ! I'll work towards that.

* do i really need to install the overview settings ? or can i just manually adjust mine ?

For general play, you can manually adjust yours. That is also usually more educational. However, for fleets and stuff, the leadership will often want you to use a standard overview they provide, just so you're on the same page as everyone else.

I usually encourage people to do up their own, and maybe even fail once or twice, dying because of a screwed up overview. Hard lessons are good lessons.


- Kestrel how should i pilot this ? tactics wise and role ? i love that it can sport 4 missiles.. so for pvp.. do i go Rockets?

Both rockets and light missiles work for PvP. Rockets for brawling, light missiles for kiting/skirmishing. The Kestrel can do both, but is especially nice for brawling. Make sure to bring a variety of damage type rockets/missiles, since the Kestrel's damage bonus applies to all of them. EM (Mjolnir) and thermal (Inferno) are best against shield ships, and explosive (Nova) and kinetic (Scourge) are best against armor ships. EM/explosive are often the better ones, but if you happen to use them against the wrong target (EM against an armor ship) you're in for a bad time. Thermal/kinetic are better for middle ground "being prepared" stuff.

(there are some exceptions to stuff like this, like don't try to shoot explosive at T2 Amarr ships; you'll learn them as time passes)


- Tristan my drone boat ?


Tristan is the T1 intro drone boat. For something beefier, you can look into the Algos or Dragoon destroyers, as well.


- Rifter the classic brawler ?

Rifter is in a weird spot where it is not the absolute best at anything, but it is decent at a lot of things. It's fairly easy to get started flying, has a very high skill cap, and when you encounter one, it's hard to be sure how it will be fit. In other words, it's unpredictable and fickle.

I personally love it, since I've flown it for years and know all its ins and outs, but I've heard it can be difficult to get started with these days. Up to you!


- Atron basic starter.. mostly tackle ?

The Atron is part of the T1 "attack frigates", which are fast, do decent damage, and use little cap for tackle, but lack survivability. The others are Slasher, Executioner, and Condor. The Atron is the most brawl and damage oriented of the four, and can serve as a good brawling ship in and of itself, in addition to being good tackle.


do i even bother with a shield or armor repper ? or do i focus on realizing i'm gonna lose sooner than later and just hull tank it tll i 'splode ? hehe

The damage incoming in PvP will almost always be too high for a regular repper to hold off. Much of the time in PvP, you should go with a buffer tank. However, "ancillary" shield/armor reppers can provide with a high enough rep amount for a limited time to use them as a substitute on some fits. The advantage is avoiding some of the penalties of buffer tanking (usually meaning you're harder to hit), and the disadvantage is that you could get blasted and "bleed" through into structure in-between repairer cycles. They can also be difficult to micro-manage in the middle of an intense fight, particularly for a newbie.

For more info, please refer to my guide on this topic here. (hooray shameless plugs!)

Welcome to Eve, and good luck!

I know it sounds nice to speed tank your little frig but when you get webbed (and you will get webbed or double webbed) you won't be so speedy anymore and then active/buffer tank can save your bacon. Or prolong your agony. Either way you will have more time to enjoy Eve :)

Also, you don't have to use t2 modules except guns and dc an maybe shield boosters/armor reppers. Meta modules are fine and meta4 are even better than t2 because they have same attributes but lower fitting requirements. That's why you can see expensive ships with meta4 points or webs and that is why meta4 are usually much more expensive than t2. And it is important for you to keep things cheap while you learn the ropes because you will lose A LOT of ships.

EDIT:

Not using t2 modules doesn't mean you don't need to train skills to be able to use them. Most of modules have bonuses based on levels of some skill so higher your skill better results you will get from module. But as a newbie you have so much to train that taking everything to level 3 or 4 should be enough to get you chance to survive and enjoy Eve.

this is excellent reading material for me here at work.. lol ! thank you so much ! I might have to look at my wallet bait and see if i can field a destroyer or two .. but i think for the immediate and now. i'll learn bait more with the frigates i listed till i can feel comfortable in a destroyer.. cause i have a sneaky suspicion that if i go out with a destroyer.. the high dos ship is gonna get primaried.. always.. lol

+1. Many dessies are very easy to learn. An overview, with a (*) next to the ones easy to learn (in my opinion):

• (*) Thrasher - Minmatar pure dakka-dakka destroyer. Will shred almost any frigate that gets in its range. Good practice platform for both autocannons and artillery
• Talwar - Minmatar missile destroyer. Very fast, with a bonus to being hard to hit with its MWD on; basically built for missile kiting, but fairly flimsy (I can kill one in a Rifter ). Works best in fleets.
• (*) Catalyst - Gallente blaster-focused destroyer. Highest DPS of any destroyer, assuming you can manage its range. Slightly less flimsy than the Thrasher, but also slightly slower. Works "okay" with railguns, but is mostly surpassed by the Cormorant for that.
• Algos - Gallente drone destroyer. Can use blasters or railguns as auxiliary weapons. I recommend railguns, since the Algos is a giant slow brick. Very tanky, but hard to get into because of high skill requirement to get drones to be decent (relative to other weapons).
• Cormorant - Caldari railgun-focused destroyer. Extreme range bonus, coupled with decent speed and survivability makes this the premier sniping destroyer. Someone with high skills can hit for good damage from up to 70-80 km away! Railguns are a tad hard to master, though. Decent with blasters, but mostly surpassed by Catalyst.
• (*) Corax - Caldari missile destroyer. Think of a tankier, slower Talwar. Has a bonus letting its missiles hit fast stuff harder. Often misunderestimated.
• (*) Coercer - Amarr laser destroyer. Less damage than Thrasher or Catalyst, but far, far better range (pulse lasers are great). Works with both pulse lasers as a semi-brawler and with beam lasers as a semi-kiter (skirmisher). Also, lasers look cool.
• Dragoon - Amarr drone destroyer. Very similar to the Algos in principle, but can't upsize its drones like the Algos can, and has no gun bonuses. It has a bonus to energy neutralizer range instead. Best used as anti-frigate fleet support.

Out of those highlighted there, the Thrasher and Catalyst stand out as especially easy to fly and succeed with, even with T1 fittings. Especially in a fleet, where you may get overlooked, you can do a lot of damage before exploding. I have made cruisers panic with my Thrasher when I land on field and their HP starts vanishing in huge chunks. It's great.

When you decide to leave RVB (most people do once they've learned the basics of frigate PVP), make sure to go out in style.

Join one of their fleets, but bring a smartbombing battleship and just go berserk killing as many purples as you can before you get killed yourself.

You'll never be welcome back in RVB, but you will have a lot of fun on your way out.

while that devilish sounds like a ton of fun.. it's just not my style.. i cold think of other things to do later.. but i'm too focused on the journey now and the end result isn't even visible on the horizon .