Ships & Modules

It does not matter what it sounds like, its the most SP-efficient thing to do.
The most time-efficient thing is to cook your own dinner the day you planned to go for takeout food, and then you can buy a plex or two for the money you saved. Then you make 1 200 000 000 isk for under an hours grinding and can go do PVP.

One thing is for certain: when someone comes up with a brilliant and well thought out point to consider, not one other person will ever understand it.

I therefore conclude that I am not a person.

It's not the same cost. He can play one toon and plex the other when they are on the same account.

You can also do this with pilots on separate accounts. Just as you can pay with cash or PLEX for a second pilot on the same account you can do this if it's on a separate account.

Rain Arthie, that person probably has to mine something like 2100 hours to make profit from training Exhumer V (since he uses Mackinaws). If he does this, he should have trained Exhumer V, but if does not, it would be a detriment to his wallet if he trained Exhumer V on all these accounts instead of using all these accounts to train new miners.

Ilshira, when one has completed training a miner up to Exhumer IV on toon 1 on account 1 you still get SP on account 1. If you made another account right away and began training a miner on account 2, what would you spend the SP that account 1 racks in every month you play on it? Making the second account before toon 2 on account 1 is completed is a waste of the account 1 SP (unless you have something to train on toon 1 other than mining skills).

Jeez. You have 1 plex per month on your account, but you turn off the training on your first finished miner so you can train the other miner on that account. You can train any 1 of the 3 characters on each account, doesn't matter which. As long as you pause one queue when you want to train another queue.

"Why have two miners on one account anyway since you can use only one? That was my big question."

I haven't got a clue where the confusion lay. If character 1 on account 1 is a miner that is maxed out (1) then it is like a full glass of water, there's no point in training more on it. So you put a glass next to it, under the same tap, and then you fill another glass (train another miner on the same account). Once you have two full miners you put one on account 2 and start filling a second miner on both accounts. Because both miners are full.

(1) - Maxed out means that it no longer is beneficial to train more mining skills. If you mine with mackinaw you have to mine 2100 hours to begin making profit on Exhumer V, if you mine with Hulk you have to mine 700 hours before you begin making profit on Exhumer V. So if you mine with Mackinaw and will not mine more than 2100 hours during the next few years, then maxed out means that you have trained Exhumer IV (And all the other beneficial skills).

I'm not saying its "broken", because not all skills have to be profitable right away. But people should know they're not profitable right away, and they should know when they become profitable. When it comes to Exhumer V, it becomes profitable only when you mine more than 700 hours with Hulk, or 2100 hours with Mackinaw.

1. I haven't got a clue why I post to forums, it has no profit involved and only every so rarely do I find someone else who have spent time and effort to try to put value in their comment, but alas, here I am because I'm bored.

2. I'd really like it if someone who had studied the mining yield stuff would come and give us a more accurate timescale than my 700 hours estimate, possibly calculating the time to make a profit on Exhumer IV and all the Mining Barge levels etc. The thing with spreadsheets is that once you have put a formula in you can mass-produce answers by dragging the corner of the box down, possibly giving us a beautiful spreadsheet showing us how long it takes to make a profit from every mining skill alone and put together in various ways. I make spreadsheets with the turret formula to see how all the variables change damage application with and without various help (target painters, tracking computers, falloff rigs etc), but I have not yet bothered to look into the mining yield formula to do the same thing.

3. I thought one or two of the dozens that read the OP would find the thought of Exhumer V skill profitability interesting, and thus posted it for posterity because it might save some people who don't mine often 20 days of SP.

4. I presume my avatar has no reason to want to look tough or dangerous because that is how people make money. They say "Oh look, this car looks like it means business with its black paint, low clearance and angry-looking headlamps" and then this fool pays a premium to get a car that he thinks makes him look high-status, dangerous and tough, when his old car works just fine. Then they sell this person dangerous-looking monocles and robot arms and black trench-coats and Titans.
No ill will intended :P

The rich man who shows all the signs of being a poor middle-class man is a rich man who most likely will stay rich. In other words, just because one can afford to waste, that does not mean waste is wise.

I get what you say, but you are not getting what I am saying.

"2 x Miners on 2 accounts = Both miners can be used together = No wasted SP"

What will you spend the SP from account 1 on? The miner on that account is fully trained.