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New player looking for PvP mentor OR advice.

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Sigechiro Otaranta
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-01-17 00:47:45 UTC
Just as the title states, i'm looking for a person (Or persons!) To show me the ropes of PvP in EvE Online and help me dive in feet first.

Respond here and we can work out a way to contact each other!
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#2 - 2014-01-17 02:16:01 UTC
It might be difficult to find a mentor (however i see some advertise that they look for people to mentor once in a while), so your best bet might be to look into joining a corporation that is new player friendly, but have experienced players you can learn from.
If you are unsure on how to go about finding a corporation you can read over this guide.

Would also recommend that you look into RVB, even tho they are not a "teaching" corporation. Be polite, ask for advice and chances are someone will be able and willing to help you, and you will get plenty of fights while your there Smile

Another teaching corporation that i tend to recommend is EVE Uni, which makes it a point to take in new players and help teach them about EVE (some love them, some hate them). However, the waiting time to get an interview can be quite extensive so prepare to be a bit patient.

Good luck Smile
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#3 - 2014-01-17 02:33:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
Other than that, the Caldari militia is very active. If you join the FW and not belong to a player corp, you can join and leave instantly as you want (no waiting times such as in a player corp). Then on the days you want to do FW, you can go into FW basic complexes where only T1 frigates are allowed so that you are not completely outclassed all the time. Then use your militia chat to find other players to do stuff with such as mission runs or offensive plexing etc. All takes place in low sec.

Downside in FW is you damage your standing with the two other empires. Downside with low-sec piracy is you damage your security rating across the board. Downside with 0.0 is you have a hard time moving loot to high sec to get best sale prices. Downside with worm holes is it takes more skill than most newbie pilots have.
FW, Piracy, MERCs, the RvB eternal wardec, surviving wormholes or 0.0 alliances. You have choices.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-01-17 07:15:49 UTC
If your looking for a Mentor or PVP training/advice I would personally ignore the following.

RVB
EVE UNI

RVB does not teach and EVE Uni teaches avoidance rather then conflict.

Having a mentor come in two flavours.

The person that takes you under his wing
The person that offers advice and how to via chat or evemail.

I prefer to be one that offers advice via chat or EVE mail. But only because I like flying on my own.

Depending where your interest lies I am always willing to advice those that need it and appreciate it. So what you need to decide is where does your interest lie within PVP?

Once you figure that out for yourself you are more then welcome to ask me.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#5 - 2014-01-17 23:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Toriessian
Kane's reputation precedes him and any advice he gives is almost sure to be spot on.

If you are looking for a more "under someone's wing" approach contact me. A training corp that will get you through your "firsts" (first time in null sec, first time in PVP, first time taking a bridge, etc.) and assist with the social/cultural adjustment to working with groups might be what you need.

Apologies to the mods if I treaded too far over the "don't recruit here" line.

Every day I'm wafflin!

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#6 - 2014-01-17 23:56:30 UTC
Sigechiro Otaranta wrote:
Just as the title states, i'm looking for a person (Or persons!) To show me the ropes of PvP in EvE Online and help me dive in feet first.

Respond here and we can work out a way to contact each other!


Join a nullsec corp. Low sec PvP is silly, it's either jumping on ratters/mission runners or ganking people on the gates while tanking the station/gate guns. If you come across someone in a small-ish ship alone on a gate, it becomes a staring match as each of you waits for the other to take the first shot. Silly. Look at corps in NPC nullsec. Sov warfare sucks, sov holding corps usually run around in huge fleets, and while this can be fun, you won't learn a lot of PvP - you'll just learn how to follow instructions and die very quietly.

NPC nullsec however is full of PvP either on an individual or small gang basis. Make sure your clone is up to date, jump into an interceptor and head out to one of the NPC nullsec regions. You can dock at any NPC station. Look up some of the corps that have offices there and/or talk to the locals and tell them what you are looking for. USE KILLBOARDS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT BSing YOU! Lots of people claim to be PvPers but actually are just carebears or suck really badly. Look at the corp and look at its pilots - what is their kill/death ratio? Their enemy isk/friendly isk destroyed? Do they just kill cyno ships? Where do they mostly hunt, what is the size of the groups they hunt in, etc. Killboards are not everything but they do give you a surprising amount of information.

Once you are satisfied that a given corp is what they say they are, try to join up. Be patient because anyone will think that someone who wants to join out of the blue is trying to get a spy into their corp. You'll be asked lots of stuff, you'll have to give your full API, etc. Some people won't take you no matter how much you beg. Others will. Then get yourself teamspeak (some people use mumble but teamspeak is more popular by far), and BE ON COMMS! Don't be shy, it's just your voice. Our alliance has a policy that any pilot who makes a mistake on a roam has to sing to us - so talking isn't so bad.

Spend time on comms, talk to people, listen and laugh at their jokes, make some of your own - in other words BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. If someone is in my corp I don't care if they've been there for years, if they're never on comms and I don't know them, I will never light a cyno for them and I'm not likely to drop everything I'm doing to go help them when they're in trouble. On the other hand there are many people who are fairly new but very active. I've got their back, and I know damn well that they have mine. PVP is more about friends than anything else.

There. Some advice.
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#7 - 2014-01-18 00:00:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Toriessian
Ptraci wrote:
BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. There. Some advice.


OP ^^ if you read nothing else written in the whole thread
Probably should be stickied on the forum and included on every page of the tutorial text as well.

Every day I'm wafflin!

Dyphorus
Inritus Astrum
#8 - 2014-01-18 07:35:02 UTC
We take on a lot of players completely new to PvP. No SP requirement, just a matter of whether your personality is a fit.

We're a low sec PvP/pirate corp living in Amarr/Minmi FW space. We fly a lot of small T1 ships, so cost to get out and have some fun is minimal. I can answer any additional questions if you're interested... but my first suggestion would be to join our public channel ( dbastards ) and come fly with us.

We're based in the Auner system, fit out a few frigs and come have some fun Big smile
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-18 08:34:58 UTC
OP might want to check this thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313366&find=unread

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Sid Crash
#10 - 2014-01-18 08:51:50 UTC
Generally joining some 0.0 corp doesn't help much, partly because nullseccers don't tend to be amazing at understanding mechanics and strategies and mostly because you'll just be thrown into the deep. What you WANT to have is someone who makes stuff happen on his own, who himself is responsible for the outcome of fights because that means to be successful he has to understand EVERYTHING.

As such having Kane as a go-to guy to ask questions and learn from is probably going to work out really well, there's more people like that and if you have questions you can also always convo or mail me.
Ovv Topik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-01-18 09:39:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
Also don't miss Agonys classes:

http://www.agony-unleashed.com/index.php?/forum/2-enrollment/

Sign up to the mailing list and book in quick.

I'd say a good FW corp is the way to go. There's an extensive list here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=305582

But don't choose a side based on them having higher tier. It changes constantly.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#12 - 2014-01-18 16:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
Ptraci wrote:
Join a nullsec corp. Low sec PvP is silly, it's either jumping on ratters/mission runners or ganking people on the gates while tanking the station/gate guns. If you come across someone in a small-ish ship alone on a gate, it becomes a staring match as each of you waits for the other to take the first shot. Silly.


On the topic of gameplay mechanics, where you might see sillyness I simply see an impossible engagement: neither party can actively agress without the sentry guns going off deciding the outcome. The relative difference between the ship classes both parties are flying, and their willingness to fight against the odds, decides whether or not the engagement can happen then and there. The 'staring match' could just as well butterfly up to a larger engagement, or lead to an exiting GF if one of the parties decides to warp to a celestial. The guy you see belt ratting might just as well be PVP fitted, looking for tags, disregarding any of the higher level anoms, and give you one hell of a fight if you engage. No such things as gate guns around FW complexes either.

Not to diss any of you excellent advice regarding null, it's just a shame if a new player were to disregard lowsec or wspace as potential PVP areas entirely. Lowsec is actually a pretty good learning environment, and wspace has a charm of it's own. I'd say look into the conditions under which you want to live, and head out to other spaces to experience them too. The knowledge you gain will serve you well over the course of your eve carreer.

Definately get on comms with people. No matter what type of space your future corp operates in, voice comms are the first and foremost requirement to a good (non-solo) PVP experience. I share the same sentiment as Ptraci in regards to trust and willingness to invest some time/ISK into other people's benefit.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#13 - 2014-01-19 12:09:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:


Not to diss any of you excellent advice regarding null, it's just a shame if a new player were to disregard lowsec or wspace as potential PVP areas entirely. Lowsec is actually a pretty good learning environment


OK my bad. Let's just say that lowsec PvP is complicated and it has rules - not as many as high sec but certainly rules that will get you killed if you ignore them. Nullsec PvP however has only one rule - a rule that exists everywhere in New Eden - the weapons timer. After that anything goes :)

I really really don't have patience for rules and complicated PvP . But by all means if you have the time or patience or a mentor to help you understand the low sec PvP rules, by all means go for it.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-01-19 18:37:56 UTC
I think OP has been advised to do everything but join a hisec mining corp in this thread.

But I'd like to recommend the lowsec group Stay Frosty. They have a a lot of good pilots and also just a lot of pilots. As far as I know they have no skillpoint requirements.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-01-20 00:02:10 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I think OP has been advised to do everything but join a hisec mining corp in this thread.

But I'd like to recommend the lowsec group Stay Frosty. They have a a lot of good pilots and also just a lot of pilots. As far as I know they have no skillpoint requirements.


OP should join a mining corp...and awox them.

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