Ships & Modules

edit: never mind, you can't fly Gallente and Sleipnir sucks.

Memory cell, really?

You get less recharge from that.

I can fly Gallente ships, I was more looking for a change of pace then anything else. If I can't find a suitable ship along the lines that I'm looking for I could get an Ishtar or some such.

Nope, sorry you are wrong. Missions do not have "prolonged exposure", the burst juice needed is at most 2-3m for every/any DPS spike (perma-tanking) in a proper gank PvE loadout . The rest of the mission you are just cycling when/if needed, with the prop and hardeners on perma only. You just melt things TOO fast for having to care about tank problems.

Also, purgers and extenders work the way you are describing. But that also means if you have the HP/s needed to sustain the biggest DPS spike in a mission with extenders, fitting purgers would make your loadout worse. Moreover, passive shield regen rate cannot be easily correlated to capacitor recharge rate. The reason is, cap recharge rate is constant for all ships with the same capacitor bank, but shield regen rates are different (and hardcoded) from one ship to another.

Lastly, ROF bonuses DON'T always give a bigger dps boost than a damage increase bonus. If you stretched the mission time to infinity and disregarded reloading then yes, it would. But in a real mission, what you choose really depends on the number of salvoes needed for the job at hand. Theorycrafting on EFT is fine and all, but PvE is salvo based (number of salvoes per npc * npcs + mission objective) and if a RoF rig results in you needing one more salvo for a npc type than a damage rig, your mission turnaround time would be slower.

What I'm trying to say is, what you should fit depends on your hull, bonuses and the mission at hand. For this Sleip example, the bigger capacitor bank will give you more juice and a healthier tanking profile in DPS bursts. No buts or ifs. If you wanted to use multiple cap slots (like in an amarr laser ship), CCCs would fit better.

And I write this having tested both CCCs and SMCs for the rig slots in L4s with this particular loadout.

The problem with Minmatar is that they dont really have a Sub-BS that can compete in level 4s with the T1 BS. Most smaller ships suffer from range issues. You can make ships like the Sleipnir or the Loki or even the Munnin work for level 4s but they will be outperformed by any BS size Minmatar ship and need some amount of bling that just dont justify the use. I dont know if the Claymore can be made to work as that would at least solve the range problem. But even here I think a simple T2 fit Maelstrom will outperform it while the Vargur laughs at everything else.

Tengu. I tell you, the answer is always Tengu :)

And seriously I don't think sub-BS can do all L4s efficiently because quite a lot of them require long damage projection. Ok, maybe not requires but while you are burning your sub-BS to get in range my Mach is happily blapping those rats. On the other hand your sig and speed may be huge factor in those missions where you have a lot of small stuff to clear out. And for blitz - which is how "real pros" do L4s - sub-BS can be even more efficient.

I tried Loki and I didn't like it because short range but I was flying Mach back then so complaining about loki's inefficiency is really not fair.

Only sub BS ships that should do level 4s are things with 125 drone bandwidth.

So Ishtar, Navy Vexor and Gila.

What about that Tengu? Well it can tank it, but its so freakin slow...

If we were talking about ships that could tank it, I could suggests a Hawk or a cloaked Ibis. Does about the same DPS as a Tengu as well lol