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Highsec PvP-ers needed for foreverwar against Goons

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#301 - 2014-01-15 01:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Renegade Heart
Xolve wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
Whatever people in your alliance may think about their prowess camping gates is of no concern to me. I don't understand what gave you the impression that I cared about PL. I'm just here to have fun with Goons.


Well given that your balls deep in Gevlon logic, by posting about it, obviously you care.

If you want to go ahead and just say that you're sorry and wrong, that works too.


I think you are over-analyzing things. I am posting right now to you, since you took the effort to reply to my previous postings. It does not follow that I care about stuff you think I care about (ie, some random PL player's view of themself).

As for saying I am sorry and wrong, no. You have lost me.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#302 - 2014-01-15 05:53:11 UTC
I've just checked the in-game war history. 99.6% ISK efficiency. Not bad from randomly invited carebear alts.

I've known that Goons are horrible, but this result still surprises me!

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Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#303 - 2014-01-15 06:27:18 UTC
My alliance's war on the goons should be going live right about now. I can already feel the pressure....

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#304 - 2014-01-15 06:43:18 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I've just checked the in-game war history. 99.6% ISK efficiency. Not bad from randomly invited carebear alts.

I've known that Goons are horrible, but this result still surprises me!


Yes you can get pretty high KB efficiency by staying in docking range of 4-4 and shooting wartargets, who knew?

Meanwhile you should write up some more verbose garbage to tell everyone how this is crippling us

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Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#305 - 2014-01-15 07:04:19 UTC
Andski wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
I've just checked the in-game war history. 99.6% ISK efficiency. Not bad from randomly invited carebear alts.

I've known that Goons are horrible, but this result still surprises me!


Yes you can get pretty high KB efficiency by staying in docking range of 4-4 and shooting wartargets, who knew?

Meanwhile you should write up some more verbose garbage to tell everyone how this is crippling us



I had to wait almost 24 hours for my SRP to get paid out, admit it; Goblin's got you by the balls. LYING DIREKKTORATE SCUM!!!

Whole Squid: Get Inked.

Jong Fera
Albireo Solem
Pandemic Horde
#306 - 2014-01-15 08:18:35 UTC
Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but i guess it's not the same for all .
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#307 - 2014-01-15 08:52:41 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but I guess it's not the same for all .
As with anyone else, what that guys chooses to do with his time is his choice. Judging by the fact that he kills miners in high sec, I'd say he ganks miners. Who else did that recently?

And while yes, it was a venture so only breaks even on his KB, the pod was worth 21m.

Basically you are having a whine because he is a goon. If he was anyone else, nothing would get said.
*applause*

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#308 - 2014-01-15 09:12:50 UTC
Priceless!
Lucas Kell wrote:
As with anyone else, what that guys chooses to do with his time is his choice.

Might want to heed your own advice a bit Lol

I'm not very good at nullbear politics but can anyone clarify the relation between space monkeys and goons, please?
From what I can see, they are equally bad at hisec but are there any other links?

D.

Bear

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#309 - 2014-01-15 10:08:23 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Priceless!
Lucas Kell wrote:
As with anyone else, what that guys chooses to do with his time is his choice.

Might want to heed your own advice a bit Lol

I'm not very good at nullbear politics but can anyone clarify the relation between space monkeys and goons, please?
From what I can see, they are equally bad at hisec but are there any other links?

D.

Bear
Oh no, I am stung by your words.
Please bear with me as I reel from the pain you have caused.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#310 - 2014-01-15 10:14:37 UTC
Don't be hurt man, it's just a game!
I'm sure the 21bil we killed on your SpaceMonkey's Alliance in a week is already replaced by more goodies.

Look at it this way: you guys managed to loose more than the goons in the same amount of time, that's a record!
So you are... better than them?

D.

Bear

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#311 - 2014-01-15 10:44:55 UTC
I still can't get my head around how anyone thinks their dock / gate camping ~~~KDA~~~ matters. Are you just trolling, or do you legit think anything you do in highsec matters, at all, to anyone except yourselves?

I guess it's a case of, where the only impact you have is on a killboard you need to convince youself it matters. It's a little sad you've swallowed lies you've told yourself so easily. I guess it's convenient though, because you don't need to try to do anything else, so convinced are you by your own misplaced sense of your role.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#312 - 2014-01-15 10:50:56 UTC
Mister Khanh'rhh, I always consider all options and when my facts are confronted by fiction repeated ad nauseam, I know I'm on the right track.

Keep sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'lalalalalalala I can't hear you, we nullbears are the bomb!' when all evidence points to the complete opposite of the spectrum.

In short: Goons can either nut up or shut up, you suck (in a light hearted, fun way) Lol

D.

Bear

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General Lemming
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#313 - 2014-01-15 11:06:16 UTC
Lockelius wrote:
A wiseman once told this wee land noob, "Do not **** with the Goonswarm"
He wasn't a wise man, but a very stupid man, because he believed in fairy tales..... hee hee hee, hooow......Big smile
General Lemming
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#314 - 2014-01-15 11:14:44 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but i guess it's not the same for all .
Marmites seem to handle them pretty well :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=21396109

Maybe having to much fun there guys (friendly fire) ? Smart bombs should be used smart Pirate
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#315 - 2014-01-15 11:19:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Saeger1737
Seems there is more e-peen being thrown around in here then at a sausage fest involving frat boys.

3 truths of eve..
1. Your never as big as you think you are.
2. CCP doesn't do well at PvP.
3. Goons will continue to thrive as long as the moon goo and scam money flow, so unless your kicking down goon pos's and taking sov at an alarming rate your not doing much but killing alts or slightly less scammed people with the alliance name attached.

Besides killing a goon doesn't mean you qualify for Mensa, just means your better then the average bear.

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General Lemming
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#316 - 2014-01-15 11:43:18 UTC
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#317 - 2014-01-15 12:28:48 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
I still can't get my head around how anyone thinks their dock / gate camping ~~~KDA~~~ matters. Are you just trolling, or do you legit think anything you do in highsec matters, at all, to anyone except yourselves?

I guess it's a case of, where the only impact you have is on a killboard you need to convince youself it matters. It's a little sad you've swallowed lies you've told yourself so easily. I guess it's convenient though, because you don't need to try to do anything else, so convinced are you by your own misplaced sense of your role.


It's about fun. Pretty simple stuff really! Eve is a cool game!
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#318 - 2014-01-15 13:16:14 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
I still can't get my head around how anyone thinks their dock / gate camping ~~~KDA~~~ matters. Are you just trolling, or do you legit think anything you do in highsec matters, at all, to anyone except yourselves?

I guess it's a case of, where the only impact you have is on a killboard you need to convince youself it matters. It's a little sad you've swallowed lies you've told yourself so easily. I guess it's convenient though, because you don't need to try to do anything else, so convinced are you by your own misplaced sense of your role.


It's about fun. Pretty simple stuff really! Eve is a cool game!

This is probably the most sensible post in this thread.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#319 - 2014-01-15 13:33:51 UTC
Danalee wrote:
I'm sure the 21bil we killed on your SpaceMonkey's Alliance in a week is already replaced by more goodies.
I'm not able to see the stats as I'm not in game, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of that 21b is in peoples personal gear where they were too dumb to avoid high sec. If someone wants to undock from Jita with 10,000 plex in their cargo bay and get exploded, that has absolutely no effect on the alliance. The bit you seems to keep ignoring is that we are NULL SEC alliances. I capitalised the key part for you there. That's the reason your little Jita station games means diddly in the grand scheme of things. Anyone with half an ounce brains knows to avoid high sec on their mains, so for all those people you kill: thank you. You are teaching them why they should not be undocking in the Jita lag into war targets.

And just in case the above has not made it clear enough, I'll summarise. Nobody is saying your raw kill numbers are not relatively high. What we are saying is that the idea that with Gevlon paying the bills it suddenly makes high sec matter to null sec groups is laughable. What you do in the new alliance is exactly the same as what you do in Marmite, and for that matter, the exact same thing as every other high sec war corp. The only difference now is that Gevlon will be taking credit for enabling your kills, while other high sec war corps are able to function without support.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#320 - 2014-01-15 14:02:47 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Danalee wrote:
I'm sure the 21bil we killed on your SpaceMonkey's Alliance in a week is already replaced by more goodies.
I'm not able to see the stats as I'm not in game, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of that 21b is in peoples personal gear where they were too dumb to avoid high sec. If someone wants to undock from Jita with 10,000 plex in their cargo bay and get exploded, that has absolutely no effect on the alliance. The bit you seems to keep ignoring is that we are NULL SEC alliances. I capitalised the key part for you there. That's the reason your little Jita station games means diddly in the grand scheme of things. Anyone with half an ounce brains knows to avoid high sec on their mains, so for all those people you kill: thank you. You are teaching them why they should not be undocking in the Jita lag into war targets.


I'm not ignoring anything, dear Lucas. I'm wondering what all these elite nullsec lords are doing in HISEC (capitalised for you there) flying badly fitted ratting/'pvp'/industry ships when NULLSEC is the place to be for them.
And this is hardly a new thing, it's been going on for a very long time. There is no excuse for the bad we have to put down on a daily basis thus for me this proves 99% of the playerbase in null doesn't know what they are doing while said playerbase is the most vocal when it comes to boasting about how great they are. You can't even organise basic operations for R&R, why would we assume you can do anything else?

Furthermore, you do what all your peers do when posting, you ignore the facts, you don't even bother to look at the numbers and repeat the same stupid one-liners ad nauseum. At least try and be civil by checking before posting, please?

Lucas Kell wrote:

And just in case the above has not made it clear enough, I'll summarise. Nobody is saying your raw kill numbers are not relatively high. What we are saying is that the idea that with Gevlon paying the bills it suddenly makes high sec matter to null sec groups is laughable. What you do in the new alliance is exactly the same as what you do in Marmite, and for that matter, the exact same thing as every other high sec war corp. The only difference now is that Gevlon will be taking credit for enabling your kills, while other high sec war corps are able to function without support.


The new alliance is very young and shows great potential to anyone that wants to see it.
They also couldn't be further away from Marmites, they don't do what we do but again, you don't want to see that because it doesn't fit your bias-bubble.

All good, but don't you mind me having fun on your expense Lol

D.

Bear

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment