EVE General Discussion

Ganking, it happens, it is an accepted part of the EVE game play.
It is also what helps drive the economy,

Ganking has so many different impacts on game play, I have ganked, I have been ganked, I have watched people get ganked.

However, what im curious about is the balance.

I have observed a drastic increase in the amount of ganking taking place in high-sec over the past several weeks. Is this a good thing or bad thing?

At what point does the amount of ganking negatively impact the game overall?

Yes, there is that particular group of players that would love to see high-sec nurfed all to hell and total unlimited / unrestricted 100% pvp take place in the 4 corners of the universe. This I have to say is a bad thing and would result in the death of the game. You know this yet still push for it with out looking at the big picture.

Yes there is the group of players that want to see high-sec become immune to pvp, and yes, this would destroy the game, the economy would crash as the amount of risk free isk / resources would flood the market and destroy any type of market stability.

How does CCCP control that balance.

What would happen to the game /economy if several major power corporations invaded high-sec with unlimited unrestricted warfare upon missioners / miners (im talking far beyond hulkageddon, im talking total unrestricted free fire on empire space, and to heck with concord /milita response)

My recent observations of the vastly increased amount of ganking taking place, I am finding it to have a negative impact but it is borderline.

I thought ganking was down?

I used to do it a lot, but I find it's just too unpredictable in terms of profitability.

If it's actually the case, it's a good thing, since they've become far too rare with the constant stream of safety buffs that have been delivered over the years.

From the grave, presumably, since it ceased to exist in 1991.

Not much.

By what process have you conducted this study to know how much ganking is taking place? What timeframe are we examining? And finally, what is the negative impact being measured and what are acceptable and unacceptable values?

What class of ship is the primary target of choice? Is there a region/location that stands out as particularly noteworthy in stats? Got killmails ?

Specifics are a good thing. Vague suggestions and headline whoring, not so much.

I am an industrialist.. I make things, I sell things

I buy ore/minerals from miners (upsurge in them getting ganked has jacked up my costs, have had to shop else were)

while the surge in pvp in faction warfare for me personally was extremely profitable.. then drastic decline in sales to mission runners has had a negative impact...

Ive had to do like all business operators do and relocate / change product line and have not found my new nich yet

The ganking has had a negative impact on my wallet in short... I will adapt ....

On a side note, I can not seem to manufacture catalysts / tornadoes fast enough..... and they still turn a profit

I agree with the response above that indicates that the risk of being suicide ganked is directly proportional to how a hisec player tanks their ship and if they pay attention or not.

EVE is huge, we normally only a see a small portion of space ourselves. I know in one particular area where I operate, SG has increased dramatically the last month and a half.

The result of this intensive ganking activity has been a marked change in miners behavior, so as much as I detest the phrase, it is "working as intended".

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1660712

I wonder if CCP laughs when they see vague threads like the OP started. I'm going to answer my own questions. OP observes ganking has increased because he saw a couple of player ships explode (maybe one of his own?) and that is more than he has ever seen. He reads the forum carebear whine threads where someone got ttheir 0-buffer loot pinata ganked and can only come to one conclusion : The amount of hisec ganking is too damn high!

Luckily eve-kill can answer the question and put the test to OPs "observations. " I'm not allowed to post killmail links here, but go to eve-kill.net and click "CONCORD Police Captain " under top killers. Then look at the month to month numbers and then write and justify the thesis that hisec ganking is on the increase. To have any validity your analysis must also correlate data from Chribba's eveoffline site showing average logged in users over time. But on their face the numbers say the OP is not a keen observer.

Maybe The Nosy Gamer can run the numbers for a blog post. Then we would have an answer to whether or not ganking is increasing beyond "I saw Jim's failfit mackinaw explode, this damn ganking is out of hand."

We would still not have an answer as to weather that was a problem or not. However CCP says that the solo mission runner or miner isn't a long term subscriber based on actual statistics they've compiled, not anecdotal evidence from the SoE mission hub or the local ice anom.

Ganking is actually low in how i understand it, i avoided being ganked apart from once when i was trying out a coveter think it was an it never ended well cause i fast fitted it just to see how it would mine.

Sit in a proc an fit it properly an ganks wont happen, i believe ppl know this an do it, the problems start when you enter a corporation, the majority of hi-sec corps (that i have looked at) and there killboards consist of nothing but barge or miner frigate kills with the exception of a few t1 frigates, so for me ganks are down yes but thats just because i believe ppl for the most part are fitting ships out properly and ppl cant gank them in time before concord arrive, so enter the age of wardec an awok and that is i believe where we are at, and that is why you will see alot of the miners/industrialists in npc corps in hisec.

Right or wrong who am i to judge i play my game an others play theres, everything that has happened to me in this game from being ganked to blew up to blew up again can all be attributed down to one thing, i grew careless, even the deaths where someone went out there way an hunted me down it was my own fault because i grew careless.

So at the end of it all i would say if you are determined to carebear your best path is a npc corp, but i wouldnt recommend it because this is a mmo and eve more than most is better enjoyed in a corporation run by players, so what i would recommend is spend a coupla hours an do some damn decent research on a corp that even in hisec can and will protect its miner/industrialts, just remember an pay those guys/gals back for protecting you with some t1 frigs modules etc, a typed out thnxz only goes so far before it gets stale to the ears

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