Missions & Complexes

Deployables only show up for combat probes. You also want to avoid getting spooked out of a mission if they're looking for someone else. If your mission is in deadspace, you have a lot more time, especially if you get 50km or MJD away from the warp-in beacon. If you're not in deadspace, they can warp directly on top of you if a cloaky has your scouted out ahead of time (so you need to play a bit more scared). If you see probes on max scan, then you want to cut the range down to 4au to see if they're going for you, and probably down to 1au or smaller to see if they're entering your deadspace complex - you won't need to leave unless you start seeing the destroyers themselves.

You also need to minimize the time that you can be ship scanned if at all possible. Missions ships can get killed on gates and stations.

Add a few things for New guys reading this.

Right click on the system you mission is in, select 'Show Info' bottom of the window that appears is a button 'Sovereignty' click it. That shows the number of Ships and pods destroyed in the last 24 hours, I am usually comfortable with 1 or 2 ships and no pods. Any more than that and your flying in the dark (kinda funny; space, dark, ok moving on).

Click on the map icon in the top right of the sovereignty window, another window opens called 'World Map Control Panel' select 'Star map' tab, then 'Stars' scroll down to 'Statistics' open it up and check the box for 'Ships Destroyed in last Hour' If the system you're in lights up like a Vegas Strip Sign, don't accept the mission and find safer ground.

This bit of Intel has been hated by pirates and anyone else interested in working in the dark, there are huge threads asking for the removal of this feature, but I find almost no one in high sec uses it. Learn to use it and it will save you ISK and eventually help you venture into Low and Nul.

As for D-Scan don't make the mistake of leaving the 'use active Overveiw' checked unless you are sure you have set it to identify probes and anything else that could be of danger. It's a good idea to have an Overview tab specifically designed to filter out structures and junk that makes it hard to quickly identify the threats, then it's just a matter of selecting that tab cycle the D-scan, and then back to your mission tab.

Yes it's more work, but really were you that busy killing red dots that you don't have time for a few simple procedures.

You shouldn't post that. Just use 10mn mwd fit with hams, and use the subsystem for a 6th launcher. If you're only going to use 3 damage mods use the emergent locus subsystem so you get an extra midslot (6/7/3 layout). Use a mix of cheap faction hardeners and t2 invulns. Use faction BCUs just to save on CPU. Keep the booster. Use only 1 boost amp at most, or drop it for the cap rechargers or painter. Use application/range rigs or tanking rigs. T2 rigs can't be looted, so its a good thing to do. You may still get ganked for a 100m booster and a couple faction damage mods, but a faction/deadspace invuln is just begging to get ganked.

Gankers do it for the money and the tears. Seems this OP provided both.

I find it amazing that some people STILL have such a hard time understanding the game they are playing. When i started in 2007 running missions in the Doxixie area which is where i 1st learned of Sister's of EVE missions, back then you could do combat missions for SOE in Gicodel), the FIRST thing the guy who introduced me to EVE taught me was how to not get ganked.

-Figure out how much it would cost to Gank you, the fit for less than that
-make use of implants, hardwirings and boosters (things that can't be scanned)to keep from having to 'bling' your ship for omptimal performance
- ALWAYS use a damage control (the hull resistance bonus turns off many a gank squad)
-Blitz (the less time you spend in a mission, the less chance of getting ganked
-move around, especially off the beacon
-as you make isk, consider not putting all yoru eggs in one basket (for example, I once sold my golem and used to characters in cheapish tech2 FoF missile tengus to mission)
-keep learning about no defensive stratigies. I'll bet im onf of the few Vargur pilots that has a Target Spectrum Breaker on his ship......

For the most part, the people who get ganked are lazy and greedy. So greedy they need to hoover up every bit of isk from a mission, so lazy as to take NO precautions and expect to survive in EVE of all games. I do most of my defiensive thinking at the EFT stage, so in space I don't even worry about gankers, and in 6 (going on 7) years of doing PVE flying navy ravens, machs, marauders abnd Tech3s, Not ONE successful gank against me.

I'll say again, not one Gank. I've lived in Dodixie, Motsu, Osmon, Lanngisi , Teonusude and other places as well as doing incursions in shiny fleets such as ISN and TVP Elite, and not one gank.

I'll mess around with it a little in EFT. I mainly fit the 100MN for acceleration gates that drop me in the middle of a swarm. I burn away and get the frigs to pull away from the pack then turn and pop them all before systematically eliminating Battleships & Cruisers. But I am not overly concerned with the prospect of being ganked. This is Eve after all. And my t2 rig training finishes in 11hrs. :)

that's a good point. If you are in a gated deadspace, or even better in one with multiple gates, look at the info when you jump a gate, it's usually about 15,000km or so to the next "room", so in the first room, move away from the gate and have DSCAN set to 50,000km to see when / if ppl are landing on the in-gate. Once out of the first room in a multi-room deadspace you just need to set DSCAN to 100,000km to catch sight of someone traversing the rooms you have left.

I dont see what's so hard....I just cleared the assult with a pair of domis, both of which combined probably cost less than one of these bling modules...in about 25 minutes, and I wasn't going for a completion time record.

Stop flying stupid flashy fits you can't afford.

Its not about what you're willing to risk, its that you're getting poor performance for the risk that you're taking. Also, 80dps is nothing to sneeze at, and when you're talking about a cruiser platform for level 4's, its pretty damn impressive.

Get a rattler with buffer tank. Put in 2 dead invuls, em/th actives, 3 large shield extender and 3 large core defense field extender II and i promise you, noone will gank you with >400k ehp plus overheat. Sit back and smile.
And, dpls dont argue "mission will take longer then". Yea. Eve is about tradeoffs. Risk vs. reward. Shield vs DPS. Fun vs AFK. Rich vs poor. ;)



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Skills or not, you don't need bling. One or two key modules might be faction/deadspace (generally the shield booster in my case), but more than that is unnecessary. If you use Eve Survival and learn how to manage range, T2 mods should be more than enough. At the very least, you should be able to fit a T2 tank and learn how to manage range. If you don't have the skills for T2 mods, you should be blitzing L3s in a ship you're better skilled for. That said, when I first started running L4s, I did it in a battlecruiser. They took forever, but I learned how to master range control and skirmish tactics.