EVE General Discussion

Archons are the way to go.

Hmmmm where to start:

First of all, make sure you can fly it at least to the higher end, train Fighters to 4 at least, get the Capital Shield Operation to 4, get Capital Shield Emission to 4, get Capital Energy Emission to 4, make sure you can fit a Triage (requires Logistics 5), even the T1 will do and also get the Cyno skill so you can cyno in help. Make sure that your shield skills are pretty good and get Caldari carrier to 4 and of course Jump Calibration to 4.

Ratting in a carrier is pretty profitable, however you are at significant risk, many people use sentries, so they sit immobile, this is not good. What I do is a find a good system which is a backwater, when I was in IRC I was using a system called 0B-VOJ, look at it on Dotlan and understand why that was a good system.

Do not do anomalies with anyone in system, period, there are exceptions to this, but you are not ready for it. You warp into the anomaly, then instantly align back to a POS, not the station by the way. set your speed to just over 75% of max, and always be ready to warp to the POS. Then apply fighters, key to your survival is having smart bombs to blow up any rats that point you, it is highly recommended that you have another toon to help in this.

As soon as anyone neutral, red, orange and light blue comes in system, you warp to that damn POS, also any dark blues that are recent warp out too, your fighters will follow and return to their bay. You have to remain very very aware of anything entering local, one thing we did was have another toon in the next system. Another thing is try not to do the sites close to the gate.

If you do this in the right system, you will make lots of ISK, but you must stay on the ball. Another trick, make sure the POS BM is at the top of your list when you right click in space.

Keep an eye on intel, also have fuel in your bay, if for example you have someone come in as you are warping to the anomaly, the chances are that you will not get out by warping to the POS, instead you align and warp when you get to warp speed, if any enemy arrives then you jump to one of your alliance beacons, one which has had nothing reported in intel for some time.

Also always fit a Heavy Neut and a faction smart bomb, and a full complement of various drones, oh and don't forget the LO for your cyno gen and stront for your Triage. Also fit for PvP even when doing PvE. And please have at least 10 Mobile Depots in your bay, if you get BLOPS dropped and there are Sins, you will need to change to a passive tank to last longer when being neuted. In other words go down fighting and make them really work for it.

I did a lot of ratting in a carrier and did not lose one!

Dracvlad, no one uses fighters for PVE any more, since they're terrible for it now. The only viable damage output for PVE is heavy drones.

Just wanted to emphasize this. Works with not carriers, too.

No, it's **** because you're using fighters. Stop using fighters.

Look again, they got nerfed very hard (they can't apply damage well to anything less than a BS).

Given I can beat your combined ticks on ONE character, without using a carrier, you're not supporting the carriers in PVE argument very well.

Stop using fighters for PVE.

e: stop using carriers for PVE as well. Or do, I guess, but it's a dumb idea.

Yes he would be better of using a BS with sentries, fitted of course with a MJD, that is a given. But he wanted to use his carrier, so I explained to him how to use it without dying, if people are stupid enough to use carriers sitting immobile next to sentries then they will lose them, as your BLOPS campaign shows in Cobalt Edge. I repeat, using anything other than fighters in a carrier is silly, because of the risk to the carrier, yes you can get higher DPS with sentries, but the risk to the carrier is so much greater as you are not aligned and cannot warp out in time!

And here we get to the interesting problem in the game, people are conditioned to focus on ISK per hour, doing so makes you easy to kill and while you gain more ISK from your PvE you will lose that and more by being easy to kill.