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Let me buy Skill Points with Plex.
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Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#1 - 2014-01-12 19:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Sraggles
Topic says it all.

For the Price of a PLEX why not let me buy a month's worth of SP (@ say, 2500 SP/Hr) that I can then allocate as I choose?

Time is precious to us all. I would like to be able to dump that month's worth of SP into those Level 5 skills that are so painful to train. Then I can buy a plex and finally get T2 Torps and Covops 5 or Cyno 5 etc and not twiddle my thumbs on the rest of my skills while I wait.

PLEX prices rise, CCP profits.

No, I don't want to buy another toon with millions of SP that are not in areas I am interested in, I want unallocated SP for PLEX that I can put precisely where I want it.

/discuss
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-01-12 19:43:39 UTC
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#3 - 2014-01-12 19:45:57 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Nope.


While I admire your brevity sir, declarative sentences are not useful.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-12 19:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
So that the older, richer players can buy skill points with their massive in-game wealth and get even further ahead of newer players? No thanks
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-01-12 19:51:54 UTC
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#6 - 2014-01-12 19:54:48 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.


Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#7 - 2014-01-12 19:56:23 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
So that the older, richer players can buy skill points with their massive in-game wealth and get even further ahead of newer players? No thanks



Newer players are more likely to "catch up" than older players accelerate away.

There is only so much you can do to improve the performance of a frig or dessie. Older richer players will be training Marauder and Capital skills.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2014-01-12 19:59:39 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.


Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints.
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-01-12 20:01:41 UTC
More like build a bot armada in no time and get back into RMT after being banned. No, earn the time in just like everyone else.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.
Pipa Porto
#10 - 2014-01-12 20:01:47 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:
declarative sentences are not useful.


Ahem

Learn to search.

There, an imperative.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#11 - 2014-01-12 20:01:58 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.


Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints.



Skill Points = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Bling = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Is that not correct?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-01-12 20:04:24 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.


Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints.



Skill Points = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Bling = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Is that not correct?



No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago...
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#13 - 2014-01-12 20:07:37 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Pay to win is bad. Go Away.


Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?


Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints.



Skill Points = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Bling = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc

Is that not correct?



No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago...


Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-01-12 20:08:31 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
So that the older, richer players can buy skill points with their massive in-game wealth and get even further ahead of newer players? No thanks



Newer players are more likely to "catch up" than older players accelerate away.


New players can't afford to buy plex by the buttload, so no. And I said older 'players', not older characters.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2014-01-12 20:11:40 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:


Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?



From nothing? Yes. It completely removes consequences for choices made during training. It penalises new players further. It destroys the character market, makes attributes meaningless, kills the implant market, removes consequences for not updating your clone...
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-01-12 20:13:59 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:


Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?

Training Amarr Battleships 1 takes me 2 Days 24 Minutes and 45 seconds.

All that bling doesn't mean **** if there are no skills to back it up.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#17 - 2014-01-12 20:16:30 UTC
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:



No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago...


Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?
It's not the end of the world if you have to train for it, like everyone else then.
Your idea is nothing new and doesn't solve any problems. (No, you wanting SP NOW isn't a problem)

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2014-01-12 20:18:45 UTC
yes
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-01-12 20:18:48 UTC
will never happen

been discussed many times over the years.

the conclusion is:

1) instantly nobody would have ISK

2) instantly PLEX would be worth a bajillion ISK

neither of which is helpful to the game
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#20 - 2014-01-12 20:19:41 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Dr Sraggles wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:



No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago...


Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?
It's not the end of the world if you have to train for it, like everyone else then.
Your idea is nothing new and doesn't solve any problems. (No, you wanting SP NOW isn't a problem)



The problem it solves is allowing new players to accelerate their training.
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