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How to explain eve to a non-player.

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Dave Stark
#61 - 2014-01-11 09:14:14 UTC
the best bit of eve though, is that you don't have to arbitrarily grind 80 levels worth of exp before you can actually do something. a 1 day old character in a frigate with a scram is still immensely useful.
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#62 - 2014-01-11 09:18:09 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
a 1 day old character in a frigate...

To a veteran, yes. To a genuinely 1 day old character, and there are very rare exceptions of course, there is a long road to travel before they are even remotely useful to anyone.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#63 - 2014-01-11 10:54:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
My advice would be: "If you want to have fun with EVE Online, just read about it. It's cheaper and funnier than the actual game."

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Taos D'Heretic
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2014-01-11 11:29:43 UTC
Logical 101 wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
a 1 day old character in a frigate...

To a veteran, yes. To a genuinely 1 day old character, and there are very rare exceptions of course, there is a long road to travel before they are even remotely useful to anyone.

less then 1 week to be a hero tackle
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2014-01-11 11:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Don't bother explaining it to non-player. You'll still be a nerd in their eyes P

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
My advice would be: "If you want to have fun with EVE Online, just read about it. It's cheaper and funnier than the actual game."

And that could be my serious answer Smile
Varisto
North Star Science And Industry
#66 - 2014-01-11 16:05:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Varisto
Where else can you fly cool looking spaceships with others and blow **** up?

If you hate spreadsheets, stay hell away from industry side of eve. Blink

Also those promotional videos of EvE, i wish real game would be like those....
shadowhearth Eto
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#67 - 2014-01-11 16:31:12 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
So, today I was thinking about how to explain New Eden to other mmo players, and this is what I came up with.

Other MMO:
Give a group of kids sticks, tell them where the pinata is, and that it has enough loot in it to make everyone happy. Watch them go cooperate and break the pinata.

EVE:
Give a group of kids sticks and tell them that somewhere in the neighborhood there is a pinata with just enough loot for one of them. Don't tell them what it is or looks like, or even that the pinata could be another kid. Just tell them everything is fair game. Watch as they beat each other, the ground, the trees, the cars, and some old ladys dog half to death before realizing that there was only a 50% chance that there even was a pinata to start with.

God I love this game.


Almost perfect, just one fix if I may: Dont give any sticks, just put one small stick in the middle of all children.
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-01-11 22:28:54 UTC
Why bother...
Decian Cor
Stronghelm Corporation
Solyaris Chtonium
#69 - 2014-01-11 22:34:49 UTC
I would tell them all about the mythical Drake.

[u]Unfiltered for the masses.[/u]

http://imgur.com/mzSl1Ie

Pix Severus
Empty You
#70 - 2014-01-12 01:19:26 UTC
Have you ever wanted to collect the corpses of the people you kill in an online game, and use them to start your own virtual funeral parlour? Play Eve.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#71 - 2014-01-12 01:23:18 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
So, today I was thinking about how to explain New Eden to other mmo players.

with difficulty.
Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-01-12 03:03:11 UTC
I simply explain the game as it is. I explain that our economy matches RL conditions, that the game takes time and specialization, and that anyone with the right mindset and propper induction can become rich, be envolved in huge ass fights, or have a spreadsheet market manager simulator.

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-01-12 04:48:08 UTC
EVE.

That game where everyone asks how you manually pilot your ship but then figure out you can't.

EVE

That game where you want to walk around the space station but figure out you can't unlock to door.

EVE

That game where its not Star Citizen.

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Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#74 - 2014-01-12 04:56:04 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:


That game where its not Star Citizen.


because EVE actually exists.

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dilly nay
State War Academy
Caldari State
#75 - 2014-01-12 05:03:52 UTC
Eve is a lot like a beautiful woman. You are black and you're massive and you've got a black hole and all of those elements I want to explore much like you would on a first date.
Tajic Kaundur
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#76 - 2014-01-12 06:15:42 UTC
Logical 101 wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
a 1 day old character in a frigate...

To a veteran, yes. To a genuinely 1 day old character, and there are very rare exceptions of course, there is a long road to travel before they are even remotely useful to anyone.

If they have assistance from someone who even remotely knows what they're doing, not so much.

I had a buddy get into this game a few days ago. I've only been playing for 8 months now or so; while it's a respectable amount of time it's not a huge amount compared to some people.

Day later he's got webs, points, and MWDs on his Amarrian frigates.

Sure, he's not able to fill every role in the game at this point, that comes with time, but to say you can't do things (nearly) immediately is wrong, assuming you have some assistance. Takes about 8 hours of training.

And compared to most MMOs, where you need to play the tutorial on repeat 2857 times (GO GET 20 BEAR ASSES) until you can actually play the game, that's absolutely nothing.
Bobby Frutt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2014-01-12 10:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bobby Frutt
EVE is explained much more simple than that:
Lord of the Flies Online

Also, you're absolutely right about the "kids" part. Now imagine if EVE online had the same description you've given, but swap "kids" with "adults". Ah well. Big smile
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#78 - 2014-01-12 10:42:42 UTC
Wild-west in space.

Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#79 - 2014-01-12 11:42:40 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
My advice would be: "If you want to have fun with EVE Online, just read about it. It's cheaper and funnier than the actual game."


Quite so, although i'm surprised to hear you agree, because that has a very radical consequence for how CCP should categorise the playerbase.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#80 - 2014-01-12 15:54:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Malcanis wrote:

This is EVE:

You, the new player, are an adorable golden haired child. You are released, alone but with a map, into a large wilderness park teeming with tens of thousands of rapacious pedophiles. If you are cunning, tenacious and lucky, you can eventually become one of the pedophiles.

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